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To: OLD REGGIE; stfassisi; metmom
"You do know there is a vast difference in the meaning of "catholic" and "Catholic" don't you? "

In the context of Christianity and the comments of our Holy and God Bearing Father +Ignatius of Antioch, those of us who are members of The Church, as in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, be it Orthodox, Latin Rite or Oriental Orthodox, with the exception of some very few, uninformed, Latin Rite members of FR, all deny that there is any distinction at all between those two words, capital "C" or not. This, by the way, has been the position of The Church since the first years of the 2nd century as is apparent from +Ignatius' warnings against the teachings of extra ecclesial heretics. I assure you that sfa shares these sentiments.

6,256 posted on 12/30/2010 10:52:59 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis; OLD REGGIE; stfassisi; metmom
If memory serves, this is a distinction without a difference. As a descriptor, Catholic and Christian described the same Church. Until the Reformation and denominations came along, both terms described the same Church.

What becomes a bit odd is Protestant's reciting credo some form of: One Holy (C)atholic and Apostolic.

It would not describe the same, or universal, beliefs; and, with reference to the article Kolo posted, "Apostolic" is not what it once meant - either in terms of authority or what was believed and taught by the Apostles. As in the recent discussion of the Real Presence.

6,257 posted on 12/30/2010 11:24:11 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Kolokotronis; OLD REGGIE; metmom
I assure you that sfa shares these sentiments.

Yes, that is correct,my friend.I think have been through this already with Old Reg this year if my memory serves me correct

6,258 posted on 12/30/2010 11:46:57 AM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Kolokotronis
those of us who are members of The Church, as in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, be it Orthodox, Latin Rite or Oriental Orthodox, with the exception of some very few, uninformed, Latin Rite members of FR,

Sigh; very true...

6,263 posted on 12/30/2010 1:29:41 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: Kolokotronis; stfassisi; metmom
"You do know there is a vast difference in the meaning of "catholic" and "Catholic" don't you? "

In the context of Christianity and the comments of our Holy and God Bearing Father +Ignatius of Antioch, those of us who are members of The Church, as in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, be it Orthodox, Latin Rite or Oriental Orthodox, with the exception of some very few, uninformed, Latin Rite members of FR, all deny that there is any distinction at all between those two words, capital "C" or not. This, by the way, has been the position of The Church since the first years of the 2nd century as is apparent from +Ignatius' warnings against the teachings of extra ecclesial heretics. I assure you that sfa shares these sentiments.

You have an advantage over me in that you can claim "...all deny that there is any distinction at all between those two words, capital "C" or not." while I cannot disprove it given your "exception" out. Further, you speak Greek while I do not.

Let's make it as simple as possible:

My native language (English) makes a distinction between Catholic (noun) and catholic (adjective.

Am I to understand you make no distinction between capitalization, nouns, and adjectives.

(You write very well in English and I marvel at your apparent ability to switch seamlessly between the inferior (English) and superior (Greek).

I repeat; "You do know there is a vast difference in the meaning of "catholic" and "Catholic" don't you?"

Pretend for the moment that you live in a country where English is the dominant language.

6,266 posted on 12/30/2010 2:12:56 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Kolokotronis; OLD REGGIE; stfassisi; metmom
all deny that there is any distinction at all between those two words, capital "C" [in "Catholic"] or not

Indeed.

6,667 posted on 01/04/2011 7:36:59 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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