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To: John McDonnell
You take 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 to mean that everyone living during the great tribulation "received not the love of the truth that they might be saved".

Nope...

2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

The context is those who do not make the Rapture because of their rejection of the Gospel and who then go on into the Tribulation...God will send them strong delusion so that they will never accept Jesus, but be damned...They had their chance...

97 posted on 11/12/2010 4:30:42 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
2 Cor. 6:2: (For he hath said, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold now is the day of salvation.)
99 posted on 11/12/2010 4:50:40 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Iscool
The context is those who do not make the Rapture because of their rejection of the Gospel and who then go on into the Tribulation...God will send them strong delusion so that they will never accept Jesus, but be damned...They had their chance...

This is your interpretation that you want to force upon the scripture. God's wisdom is so far superior to ours, that we have this tendency to force our narrow visions upon fragmented revelations of His purposes.

Satan tempts. God tests. Satan tempts via delusions. God tests via delusions. Satan wants everyone brought into bondage through his delusions. The delusions that God allows do not necessarily condemn to bondage because He always keeps open a way of escape for those who repent of the attitudes that prompted the delusions to be a test.

Therefore, for you to say that God purposely deludes people so that they can be damned by Him cannot be pleasing to Him: "Seek ye the Lord while He may be found, call ye upon Him while He is near. Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and He will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon. For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts" (Isaiah 55:6-9).

I believe that the arrogant tone of your support for the deception known as the pre-tribulation rapture theory is displeasing to God. I pray that you will humble yourself before God and confess that you don't know whereof you speak. Otherwise, the delusion you have fallen for could eventually prompt you and others to take the mark of the beast, since you don't believe that the Antichrist can arise to have a mark to take prior to your falsely supposed pre-tribulation rapture.

Pre-tribulation rapture theory is a delusion that Satan promotes to deceive Christians. God is using that same delusion to test His people, to see whether or not they are open to His holy purposes, which have never included a pre-tribulation rapture.

100 posted on 11/12/2010 5:13:10 PM PST by John McDonnell
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