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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; smvoice

Dr. E, please reread my conversation above with smvoice.

Mary’s mystical presence in the host is obvious for exactly the same reasons you saw laid out in the quote. Christ’s body came from the body of Mary. It was literally pieced together cell by cell, organelle by organelle, molecule by molecule in her womb.

So her body is present, mystically, in a certain way wherever His is. But mystically, NOT substantially. It is an entirely different mode of presence.

The Eucharist is not only body and blood but also SOUL and DIVINITY of our Lord. Our Lady does not share her son’s soul. She does not share His divinity. There are not two persons in the Eucharist, not two souls. We adore the Eucharist because it is God. Mary is not God.

You are taking what is described as a mystical presence and assuming that the authors mean a literal presence. Very very bad idea—and it’s no wonder that you think the concept ridiculous.


51 posted on 11/18/2010 6:43:16 AM PST by Claud
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To: Claud

See post 61...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2628718/posts?page=61#61

Rome dwells on the inconsequential. The incarnation is a mystery, and as such, we are not to extrapolate heresies from what we do not understand.

What we do understand is that Mary plays no part in our salvation; only in her own. Men are saved by Christ ALONE. Keep your eye on the prize and don’t be distracted by “foolish questions.”


62 posted on 11/18/2010 11:01:36 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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