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To: pf707
That is why I'm getting the evidence straight now before it can be said that Fatima simply attaches itself to every event.

You are living in an alternate reality. Your whole premise is based upon the consecration of Russia not being carried out. Therefore, Russia is a threat to the Church. The consecration was performed and Russia is not a threat. As a matter of fact, about a year ago Moscow and the Vatican established full diplomatic relations. They are no longer the atheistic, church-persecuting nation they were about 20 years ago. Which coincidently, is about the time Lucia publicly stated the Consecration was completed.

If there is to be a persecution of the Church the more likely candidates are the crazy Muzzies or China. The Muzzies have no problem destroying churches and killing Catholics and China has driven the Church underground.

28 posted on 12/02/2010 8:02:54 AM PST by pegleg (Lies will seek you out, but the truth must be sought.)
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To: pegleg
The consecration has not been done as requested by the seer Lucia. It has to mention Russia and it has to be done in union with the bishops.

Pope Pius XII consecrated Russia in like 1950, BUT, not in union with the bishops. Pope JPII did it twice, but never specifically named Russia, nor did he do it in union with the bishops.

We have the record of the seer Lucia stating that the consecration by Pius XII was incomplete because he did not do it in union with the bishops AND YET HE SPECIFICALLY CONSECRATED RUSSIA. The only two things that could make anyone think that the JPII consecrations (WHICH LACK BOTH the union of the bishops in the consecration AND THE MENTION OF RUSSIA) were complete, would be ignorance of the past consecrations by Pius XII (which at least mentioned Russia) or that the people saying that the consecrations were done are enemies of the Church.

The consecrations have not been done, those that teach otherwise are either ignorant of the subject matter, or enemies of the Church, whether they are wolves in sheep's clothing (Catholic clergy) or wolves.

The errors of Russia are still there, and have spread all over the world: abortion, contraceptives, divorce, women behaving as men (not having children and competing for men's jobs), breakup of the family, children raised by the state, Immorality, fornication, adultery,pornography drugs & alcohol abuse, and sports/circus to keep the masses numbed. The USA is already poisoned by the errors of Russia, the USA is actually today the biggest promoter of the errors of Russia.

Our Blessed Mother came to warn us of errors of Russia pertaining to our ETERNAL SALVATION. If she had come to warn us of the earthly horrors of communism, it's mass starvation killings, concentration camps, firing squads and so forth, she would have warned us also of the Nazis, and every other despot since 1917.

I've read so many books on Fatima that it would make your head spin.

29 posted on 12/02/2010 12:39:25 PM PST by verdugo
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