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To: hoyt-clagwell
Show me the voice recording or actual words written by Jesus himself where he says priest need to be celibate. It was a man man creation written by infallible men who have interpreted their own meaning of it through the centuries.

Show me the voice recording or actual written words by Jesus of anything.

Don't you understand the Creed you profess every Sunday and that you are agreeing to it with your "Amen"? Do you understand Sacred Tradition, Magisterial teaching and the Word of God and how they are related as a Catholic? Do you understand the "loosing and binding" charge of the Church?

You never answered my question. Is a pastor who has done great things spreading the word of God his whole life looked upon any less by God?? My friend always wanted to be a priest not a deacon but he fell in love with his HS sweetheart 30 years ago.

We are all judged by God so I cannot presume to say as you do. I do know what that He left the Church as a visible sign of his teaching authority.

Can we question the Church, absolutely? Should we question the teaching and discipline of the church thru ignorance? Absolutely not. That would be irresponsible.

Your friend would have to become a deacon first before a priest anyway. Why doesn't he serve in the capacity he can? Why is he insistent of him getting his way? How is this the Church's fault? Your friend chose his vocation 30 years ago. You wont answer my question, "why doesn't your friend become a permanent deacon so that he can serve the Church?" Sounds more like your friend wants to serve himself with that attitude.

My church is a "training" church. They bring in priest right out of the seminary for 6 month to a year and then they do onto a permanent position elsewhere. Yes, there are fine young priest and I am sure you are one of them. However, The last 3 out of 4 we have had we terrible.

As long as you limit available candidates you are going to get a lesser candidates as a whole.

Tell that to the Marines.

42 posted on 12/09/2010 11:01:14 AM PST by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: frogjerk
As long as you limit available candidates you are going to get a lesser candidates as a whole. Tell that to the Marines.

My church is praying for men to come to the priesthood each mass and there is a shortage.

The Marines are not praying for recruits nor is there a shortage.

There is no comparison between the two.

45 posted on 12/09/2010 11:11:02 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew)
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