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To: bkaycee
None of these negates that Church believes Jesus Christ and no other is the one mediator between sinful humanity and the righteous God.
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The fifth session of the Council of Trent (1546) laid out the belief in Jesus the one true mediator as the norm of Catholic faith: "[Original sin cannot be] taken away through the powers of human nature or through a remedy other than the merit of the one mediator, our Lord Jesus Christ, who reconciled us to God in his blood, having become our justice, and sanctification, and redemption."


1. in suffering with him -- so, she suffered alongside him -- His suffering and sacrifice is what saved us
2. She co-operated in the work -- so too do you co-operate with Christ when you pray and follow His gospel
3. you need to link "this saving function, " with the this referred which is "This motherhood of Mary in the economy of grace"
4. "but by her manifold intercession," contains the same significance as you interceeding with God for someone else, as in you praying to God for someone else
5. "she continues to win the gifts" -- note: She wins it. From whom? From God, from the Sole Mediator between sinful humanity and righteous God -- her Son, Our Lord and God, Jesus Christ.
6. "was associated with " -- note that this is commentary, not dogma.

7. Remember that Christ, the God-man, is the sole mediator between God and man (or woman) -- no woman or man can go to the Father excerpt through Him


Remember that Jesus is the vine, the source of grace. Yet we have Eph 4:39 Let no evil speech proceed from your mouth; but that which is good, to the edification of faith, that it may administer grace to the hearers.
242 posted on 12/16/2010 8:48:22 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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To: Cronos
1. in suffering with him -- so, she suffered alongside him -- His suffering and sacrifice is what saved us
2. She co-operated in the work -- so too do you co-operate with Christ when you pray and follow His gospel
3. you need to link "this saving function, " with the this referred which is "This motherhood of Mary in the economy of grace"
4. "but by her manifold intercession," contains the same significance as you interceeding with God for someone else, as in you praying to God for someone else
5. "she continues to win the gifts" -- note: She wins it. From whom? From God, from the Sole Mediator between sinful humanity and righteous God -- her Son, Our Lord and God, Jesus Christ.

Yes, I have heard the same vatican double speak for some time now. "She's a Mediatrix while Jesus is the sole Mediator; She's a co-redemptrix while Jesus is the only redeemer; All graces flow thru Mary and Jesus is the source of all grace."

The RC Mary seems to posess many attributes of deity in her ability to hear and grant prayers.

My Father likes to say she has the ability to soften Jesus Judgement of us, because he cannot refuse His mother so we can take refuge in her.

While this is certainly a heart warming, familial depiction, it is quite anti biblical.

265 posted on 12/16/2010 10:09:42 AM PST by bkaycee
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