Mass exodus

WORLD Magazine ^ | Jan 15, 2011 | Alisa Harris

[Quix]

IIRC,

Y'all's own estimates on FR are that only 20% of self-labeled Roman Catholics are authentically practicing RC's.

I don't know if Gamecock or Alex have those posts archived, or not.

In any case, we've seen plenty of posts on FR from RC's themselves--AS WELL AS survey research--DOCUMENTING that it's really the often proferred stats of RC's themselves on FR that don't add up.

[metmom]

Think you’re going to get an answer?

[Quix]

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

[boatbums]

Here is an article from Christianity today that, according to the study they cite, there are 38,000 Christian confessions and since there is the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church, the rest belong to the Protestants, i.e your folks.

If you bothered to check, the research every one of these articles you link to quotes these numbers from the work of David A. Barrett. This research of his has been debunked numerous times here on FR for the implication Catholics delight to derive from it about ALL THOSE 30,000+ PROTESTANT DENOMINATIONS. If you aren't aware of it, I'd be glad to post it again. Once you read it you will not, or should not, ever try to slip that past anyone here. Let me know if you'd like to see it.

[Quix]

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

[Quix]

VERY

ACCURATELY,

HONORABLY,

TRUTHFULLY,

FACTUALLY

PUT.

THX.

[metmom]

You posted the reply to my post (#77), quoted what I said and removed my name. You made a comment on my statement and didn't even have the courtesy to ping me.

Why did you do that?

You were in no danger of being talked about behind your back.

That's essentially what you did.

When common courtesy is extended to me I will return it in kind.

What a paragon of maturity. Read the Beatitudes lately?

wmfights asked a very good question. Is there something you'd like to accuse me of to my face?

[Quix]

Not holding my breath.

I think the Kennedys are a protected class of

‘the fast-tracked to pretend White Hanky-hood’

along with other powerful politicos.

Along with priests who train altar boys in various

physical therapy exercises . . . oh, right, their protected status got revoked . . . mostly . . . sort of . . . depending.

[metmom]

We know that annulments equal divorce. It's the Catholic way of shaking down the rich.

It's a way of finessing God's commands.

If the priests were doing their job during Pre-Cana classes, there wouldn't be any need for Roman Catholic church sanctioned divorce (aka annulments)

[Natural Law]

"Is there something you'd like to accuse me of to my face?"

You mean besides vile, mindless, evil anti-Catholicism and a significant history of misrepresenting Catholic teaching in spite of ample evidence to the contrary? No.

Why, do you have a guilty conscience and feel a need to confess?

[metmom]

Since divorce is a mortal sin, annulment is an out for them to get a divorce and not call it a divorce and still get to heaven.

Probably shortens their time in the torture chamber of purgatory.

The hypocritical thing is, if the marriage wasn’t *valid* to begin with, that means the *married* people were deceived by the church into thinking that the marriage that the Roman Catholic church performed in the first place WAS valid.

In the second place, it then means that they were living in sin (adultery since they weren’t “really” married) all those years and any offspring are then illegitimate children.

[Judith Anne]

I frankly don’t see any reason for any Catholic to participate on this dogpile thread. The Usual Suspects are doing nothing except asking the same old questions, searching for a gotcha, acting as though they are morally superior in whatever one of the 30,000 other splinter sects that they inhabit.

It’s ugly. Let them alone. Leave it for the lurkers to see their unChristian disobedience to the two greatest commandments. They are doing nothing to praise God or His Church, they are instead seeking to establish themselves some sort of soulless theological position of pride. It will be their downfall. Leave them to it.

[Judith Anne]

The hypocritical thing is, if the marriage wasn’t *valid* to begin with, that means the *married* people were deceived by the church into thinking that the marriage that the Roman Catholic church performed in the first place WAS valid.

Or, it could mean one participant in the sham marriage lied, or it could mean that one participant was pressured into marriage because of a pregnancy, or it could mean that one participant was a practising drug addict or alcoholic, or it could mean any one of a number of things.

[Judith Anne]

PS, where is it stated that divorce is a mortal sin?

[metmom]

Oh? It’s just a venial sin?

Something that God hates so much and Catholics even quote Scripture against?

Really?

[Natural Law]

"I frankly don’t see any reason for any Catholic to participate on this dogpile thread."

I agree. Though I think I struck a nerve here. The squealing and outrage is because so many of the anti-Catholics left the Church over their own indiscretions. They hold a visceral hatred for the Church because it won't officially condone their serial polygamy and adulterous behavior or participate in their charade of godliness.

[Judith Anne]

So, where is it stated that divorce is a mortal sin?

[Judith Anne]

I’d say, let it go. Everyone reading the thread can see what is going on. They will make up their own minds.

[metmom]

Though I think I struck a nerve here. The squealing and outrage is because so many of the anti-Catholics left the Church over their own indiscretions. They hold a visceral hatred for the Church because it won't officially condone their serial polygamy and adulterous behavior or participate in their charade of godliness.

Divorce is a mortal sin except when it isn't.

Yeah, right.

Finessing God's laws, again.

The Catholic church makes the Pharisees look like a bunch of bush league slackers.