Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ

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[DelphiUser]

DU: CC, tithing is in the Bible. Maybe You should read it before complaining about a Biblical practice...
Just saying
Delph

By golly Delph, it sure is, right there in Leviticus:

One tenth of all your income is Mine, and it is holy unto Me. Lev.27:30

Problem is, Leviticus was not written to us, it was written for the israelites.

So was the Bible... I guess this explains why antis seem to have no problem with bearing false witness...

BTW, I am a descendant of Abraham with the genealogy to prove it.

Now, if you want to go cherry-picking laws out of Leviticus and following them, that's a pretty good one.

I personally would choose that over the constant slaughtering of animals. My gosh, it must have been a bloodbath. The first 9 or 10 chapters are about animal sacrifices.

And telling my teen-age daughter she had to saty in seclusion every time she had her period. Yikes, that would be a struggle. Hard to finish school too.

Be sure to go over all the food restrictions, the handling of dead bodies, the treatment of skin diseases and discharges.

If you are a man with a skin discharge and you touch the WII remote, it has to be destroyed. Really, it's in there.

Really? they talk about the Wii? Well it is a prophetic book you know, now what does it say about X-box 360...

(You do know that Mormons have a newer updated law of health called the Work of wisdom, right?)

I also assume you know they Law of moses was fulfilled in Jesus Christ, right? Tithing was not a mosaic law, Abraham followed it, so it was not fulfilled, besides the early Christians followed it too.

I have heard some Ex-Mormons talk of "giving themselves a 10% raise", I figure they just sold their inheritance for a mess of pottage (book of Jasher sheds a lot of light on this BTW)

IMHO Regardless of what denomination you are, all Bible followers should be paying tithing to their church.

Delph

[RCFlyer]

TaraP said: “Yes. Do not take religious instruction from False Prophets or Doctrines.....It surely does not mean throw a Mormon person out of your house.....”
— I agree. If the Mormon promised not to trick me with false words, then I would let him stay. If the Mormon persisted in trying to convert me, I would remember how Jesus cleansed the temple, and how Jesus challenged and corrected the scribes and Pharisees who followed him around, trying to catch him in an “error”. Jesus told his disciples he spoke in parables so the false teachers and Pharisees would not understand the truth in his sermons. Yes, Jesus ate and spoke with a couple of Pharisees, the ones who were interested in him. But Jesus contended with all the rest, knowing they were out to kill Jesus.

TaraP: “Arrogance and Condemnation is not of the *Christ*”
— I agree Jesus was never arrogance. He was always correct. He is God. But Jesus will judge the world when he comes again. He will condemn Satan, his followers, and those who refused the true Christ and take up with false prophets and teachings.

All in all, I think I see a love of people in your posts.

[Daniel II]

“O Brother, Where Art Thou?”?

[T Minus Four]

I prophecy that she will not answer you or she will throw some flip comment or pseudo-clever insult at you.

[Sherman Logan]

I never said he was a martyr, because I didn’t disclose my definition of the term.

It was entirely appropriate for Joe to fight back. The mob that came to kill him had no legal authority and was in fact violating a guarantee of safety by the governor. They were a gang of murderers, and I don’t believe anything Christ said could be construed to mean that a Christian was not supposed to defend himsel against murderers.

As far as History goes, it depends on your definition of martyr, as I said initially. But a good many Catholics (and Protestants) consider many of those who were killed by the other side during the various religious wars of early modeern times to have been martyrs. A good many of these people were captured while in arms against their foes before their murders.

[Elsie]

Moving a thread from caucus to open to ridicule a group violates a trust that was made before you even joined FR.

Assert motive!

[reaganaut]

Hey Sentinel, what we should do is get out our Quads too and double check to see if the changes in the JST are footnoted in the Bible.

It will be interesting to see how many changes the LDS don’t accept.

[DelphiUser]

Have enough guts to say it directly to Jim, you coward.

I already did. Do I have to repeat for every latecomer to the thread? That just wouldn't be nice.

Delph

[Elsie]

“Focus on the issues not the group think stink bombs!”

ha hA HA!!!

[CharlesWayneCT]

Actually, that is not why this thread has the caucus tag removed. The reasons for the change in this thread were clearly stated.

The statement closest to your interpretation was that the title was “insulting”, for those who reject the LDS beliefs.

But “insulting” is not at all the same as “ridiculing”, much less ridiculing a specific group.

Caucus threads are not allowed to be posts of attack-articles; they are supposed to only mention the belief system of the caucus. The article in this thread seems to meet that definition, being a statement of the mormon faith, without reference to other faiths or practitioners.

[T Minus Four]

Maybe he really WAS a prophet! The one on the middle left looks just like a computer mouse. Ironic, since computers will be the end of his nonsense.

[T Minus Four]

:-)

[reaganaut]

I’m sorry you had that experience. The second set could have been a regular member and a new missionary or if you were LDS at one point it could have been “Home teachers”.

[Elsie]

So... you think I’m gonna believe you over God?

I must be hearing GOD's voice, too!

Could you please send me your address by Freepmail?

[ejonesie22]

And that applies how?

I will make a leap (not a big one) that your point is all about mercy and such, a noble and applicable concept, up to a point...

However, is mercy to be shown to the point that we allow good people to walk straight into the gates of hell itself, in order not to “offend”...

Not very merciful if you ask me...

I like the book of Jude on that one...

22 Be merciful to those who doubt; 23 save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.[f]

[reaganaut]

applause E. Well handled.

[dragonblustar]

Restornu,

Then you must believe a great conspiracy has taken place in America and that everyone who is not associated with the LDS is out to get Joseph Smith.

Deep down inside, you know there is some truth to what is being said about Joseph Smith. Would you really risk your eternal soul on the goodness and purity of Joseph Smith? God is giving you a chance to take a look and see for yourself, would you really tell God that no further research on Joseph Smith is necessary?

[Elsie]

If I was not posting from my phone...

AGAIN?

I'm still waiting for them updated Missionary Rules I assumed you were going to post.

[CharlesWayneCT]

I don’t understand why people would willingly choose to read the caucus thread of a religion they think is a joke.

Although I think my bigger disconnect is that I find it hard to believe that there are freepers here who are reading LDS caucus threads trying to decide if they want to join the LDS church — which would be the only way a thread could work for proselytization.

Maybe I am wrong about that. It’s just that in my time here, I’ve not often met freepers who were looking to change their opinion about anything, much less their religious beliefs.