Just having a hard time accepting some of their threads (like this one for example) that I find extremely offensive. I’m at the point that I’m not going to allow any protected LDS/Mormon Caucus threads on FR. You can’t post offensive stuff like this and expect Christians not to object to it. And I’ll be damned if I’m going to suspend or ban or deny any Christian from objecting to what he believes is the false prophecy of Joseph Smith. Whether Mormons will feel welcome here after this or not is completely up to them individually.
***That is the heart of the matter. I have often wondered why the mormons were allowed caucus status on their threads. It essentially elevates their heresy to the same level as the mainstream christian beliefs.
This does bring up the issue of who should be granted caucus status on FR. For instance, the Jehovah’s Witnesses have a similar level of heresy. Most christian demoninations fall under what C.S. Lewis described as “Mere Christianity”. I have found my own very basic litmus test, which is the deity of Christ: Do they believe that Jesus was GOD (Yes, YHWH God)? Or do they think he was A God (JW’s) or that we’re all gods (Bahai & others) or that we can become gods (mormonism, as far as I can tell) or that He simply was NOT God & we’re all mistaken (atheism, agnosticism, scientism). For my own purposes, I do not give anyone spiritual credence if they do not believe that Jesus was GOD Himself. Perhaps this would make a simple dividing line to determine if someone should be granted the status of caucus threads here on FR?
It is a bit like pulling the rug out from under these poor, unfortunate souls who have bought into the heresy of mormonism and felt they were welcome to post on caucus threads here on FR. I would prefer to see a more reasoned, methodical approach so that it cannot be chalked up to capriciousness.
You wish to make the teaching of the trinity (not found in the Scriptures) the litmus test for caucus threads?
Why? Because YOU accept it?
Mormon caucus threads have of late IMO been posted with little regard for discussion, but as a way to proselytize without debate.
I doubt that the caucus thread was originally intended to further the "bunker mentality". Many mormon caucus threads were posted with subjects that while not directly showing overt antagonism, the covert antagonism is lurking beneath
Now, I'm not saying that disagreements among the other denominations don't get heated. However, I believe someone noted that these disagreements are among fellow believers in certain basic Christian tenets. I know of no Christian denomination represented here with the same basic tenets as mormonism.
It is a sect that from the very foundation was anti-Christian, as stated by prophet after prophet up until the last decade or so.
I really don't think the caucus issue is primary in the case of mormonism on FR but rather the attitude within mormonism that their belief is sacrosanct and that NO ONE has the right to question it. The mormons, and I speak from experience, have from the days of Joseph Smith been taught that they are a special people, and have been "persecuted" for the whole 180 years of the sect's existence BECAUSE of that "specialness".
The attitude is of entitlement, much like that attitude that we see today in the protected "special" classes that have grown up in America.
What you see in the discussion forum here is that regardless of the factual content of the material posted, there is an elitist reaction of "I don't give a damn WHAT the veracity of the post is, the fact that you SAID it is an attack against my church, my history, my family, my god"....on and on. And so, the attempt is made to sequester yet flaunt mormon beliefs under conditions that brook no objection.
One must understand that as stated in a speech at BYU by James Holt, March 12, 2010 ,
"This is not the purpose of interfaith dialogue from an LDS perspective; we don't seek ecumenism, we seek interfaith relationships and dialogue, but we do not seek ecumenism, because the purpose of it is to bring the churches together," Holt said. "That's not an LDS teaching, and we must be honest about it."
The dissonance of that statement with mormon demands to be called Christian is, to me remarkable, so why should mormons be granted caucus status on FR?