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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr
KOSTA50: “If you use the Bible as you guide, then it would be perfectly logical to believe in pink unicorns and Eastern Bunnies”

Which is like saying “If you use the word of God as your guide, you believe in pink unicorns.”

Except it's not the same as saying "God is like a pink unicorn". I don;t know what God is and therefore cannot likien diety to a pink unicorn.

As for the Bible, the subject was Bible stories. To me, the Bible was always something written by humans moved by their faith and devotion to God, and not something God wrote using someone's hands. That's not what inspiration means.

Neither does my former branch of Christianity claim teach the bible is a literal word of God or, even worse, the Word of God (i.e. Logos), as apparently some Protestants do. I made that perfectly clear on more than one occasion, and even posted Orthodox take on the scriptures with links to the sources.

To me, Bible stories appear as fantastic tales, and I never looked at them as factual but as stories with a moral and spiritual message, intended to edify the believer. Again, the Orthodox Church doesn't insist they are literal either, with few notable exceptions: Incarnation and Resurrection.

These two are included in the Nicene Symbol of Faith (aka the Creed), and are dogma. As a practicing Christian I did believe in the resurrection and Incarnation as literal and true events, because that's something I was taught as far back as I can remember.

Today, I simply don't know. Such things just don't happen in the real (observable) world, so doubt is not baseless.

1,972 posted on 01/29/2011 11:14:04 PM PST by kosta50 (Pagan prayer to Mithra: "give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again")
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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; metmom; RnMomof7; wmfights; HarleyD; Gamecock; 1000 silverlings; ...
To me, the Bible was always something written by humans moved by their faith and devotion to God, and not something God wrote using someone's hands. That's not what inspiration means.

"Inspired by God" doesn't mean God was a cheerleader for the writers of Scripture. It means the word of God was authored by God. Two thousand years of Christianity states that fact to be true.

As a practicing Christian I did believe in the resurrection and Incarnation as literal and true events, because that's something I was taught as far back as I can remember.

But that's something you say you don't believe now. Was your former church in error?

Such things just don't happen in the real (observable) world, so doubt is not baseless.

Hundreds of witnesses say otherwise.

Doubt is always an unruly companion of faith. It's impossible to eradicate it from our lives. Our faith is not perfect.

But that's all the more reason we need to return to the Scripture and rely on His promises.

"When we render to the word of God less honour than is due to it, there steals upon us, without our knowledge, a growing obstinacy, which brings along with it a contempt of the word of God, and makes us lose all reverence for it." -- Calvin, John II.275

1,978 posted on 01/29/2011 11:44:33 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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