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To: Cronos; MarkBsnr; Quix; Lera; metmom; RnMomof7; caww; HarleyD; wmfights; blue-duncan
Scripture does not show God predestining anyone to damnation

Men send themselves to hell all by themselves.

Does God give eyes to see and ears to hear to all men, to know the things of God and turn from their sin toward the light of Christ?

Obviously not.

Those whom God has freely gifted with grace through faith in Christ will believe and be brought to repentance, believe and be saved. Those He doesn't so gift will continue to love their sins and pay accordingly.

Thus, we are left with the following truth from God to help our understanding...

"Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy." -- 1 Peter 2:7

As Paul told us in Romans, some men are appointed to be vessels of His grace to display His mercy and others vessels of His wrath to display His justice.

Our job is not to question God by saying "why;" our job is to be grateful for His free gift of grace, and to preach the Gospel to all men, confident those whom God has called to Himself will respond in true faith.

2,544 posted on 02/01/2011 4:00:42 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; Quix; Lera; caww; HarleyD
Scripture does not show God predestining anyone to damnation

one just has to read Ezekiel 33 to realise how wrong the Calvinist false doctrine of double-predestination is.

And the OPC with it's other errors also believes this non-biblical doctrine and furthermore, the OPC condemns as damnable heretics Methodists and Pentecostals (and other Arminians) who do not follow this non-scriptural OPC teaching:
In fact the OPC says this about those who deny the non-scriptural double-predestination, God pre-damns people idea of the followers of Calvin. Hence they condemn followers of Christ like Methodists/Pentecostals etc. here is a quote from the OrthodoPresbyterianC site
Arminianism is indeed a heresy,....

The Bible teaches that Christ did his atoning work on behalf of his elect people, and no others.....

Since the teachings of Arminianism are contrary to Scripture, they are manifestly false. They are serious perversions of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Are Arminian preachers heretics? In a sense, yes,

Is Arminianism a damnable heresy? Yes.
the OPC with it’s double-predestination seems to willingly cause it’s cultists to plumb the depths of despair — since they do not believe in repentence, then anyone who fails then is told by the OPC that they were never Christian.
2,635 posted on 02/01/2011 9:28:16 PM PST by Cronos
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