[daniel1212]

That is sometimes the case with an otherwise good church, and i consider it the downside of commitment to doctrinal purity, when it tends to go beyond the real essentials to teach somewhat debatable things which require more objective inquiry, as detailed dogma requiring complete assent. On the other hand, a sectarian spirit of elitism is easy to slip into and is always to be avoided

[Cronos]

That is sometimes the case with an otherwise good church, and i consider it the downside of commitment to doctrinal purity, when it tends to go beyond the real essentials to teach somewhat debatable things which require more objective inquiry, as detailed dogma requiring complete assent.

Valid -- I know what you're getting at :), but the basic critical doctrine is always to be "What do you teach a dying man?" and the answer is "To believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and God and Savior" -- the rest is just additional.

On the other hand, a sectarian spirit of elitism is easy to slip into and is always to be avoided --> my contention is that this is something that is inherent if one has the idea of a caste-system with a "if you're one of us you are the Brahmin elect" system. For me, personally, I think we need charismatics AND retiring monks, yet there must be a balance (in the force :-).

There is a difference between the liturgical and the charismatic and the purely written word groups -- and there should be a balance. Will expand more on this in the next post to you