Posted on 02/21/2011 5:39:21 AM PST by Gamecock
LOL... maybe if they WENT TO CHURCH the bills would win :)
Have to laugh a bit at the food reference, when my dad moved out of Buffalo the last stop he made heading out of town was to buy a whole case of Weber’s Horse Radish Mustard.
It was his prized possesion and lasted almost a decade.
We have more politicians per square foot than anywhere in the country.so lots of patronage jobs to be had..
“LOL... maybe if they WENT TO CHURCH the bills would win :)”
They can go to church Saturday and not miss anything with the way Syracuse has been lately.
When I go to visit I always take Shellys skin on wieners and Webber’s.
Webber’s was sold to Heinz a few years ago..I thought it might go national . ....but still only local
And no question our hot dogs are the best in the country..people eat such junk and call it a hot dog...... thank you to the polish/italian/german population all of our sausage is tops
There are snow birds who go south for the winter but still come back for the summer, and they are generally the retired population.
If that is what’s causing the Catholic church in the Buffalo area to close, that does not bode well either.
No matter how you cut it, the Catholic church in the WNY area is in trouble and that has historically been a strong Catholic enclave.
There is no way to spin this to make it look good.
That goes for two other churches I know of as well.
Totally different Protestant denominations, too.
Catholicism is taking a real hit in the Buffalo area and it’s not all due to declining population.
That’s what I keep hearing and yet when I relate what I know of Catholicism, I keep being told that I’m wrong and essentially that I’m lying about what is going on in grassroots Catholicism out in the real world.
I cannot ever recall meeting one committed RC who did NOT vote democrat.
And when confronted about the abortion issue, they appealed to the fact that dems have programs to help the poor.
They excused away the abortion issue with other nonsense and would not admit that they were voting contrary to the RC teaching.
If the Catholic population in Buffalo voted as conservative as other Catholics outside Buffalo have, Buffalo would be a conservative stronghold. The Catholic population in Buffalo is responsible for the corrupt liberal politics in that city.
IIRC Jimmy Griffin was Catholic, was he not?
Buffalo food it the nectar of the gods.
Beef on weck, chips, dill pickle and a large Loganberry.....
mmmmmmm..............
My wife is ardently pro-life, and also ardently RC.
My point is this: Conservative (i.e.: traditional) RC dioceses are flourishing, especially as compared to liberal ones.
How is what we’ve described “very different”? I won’t presume to argue with the two Freeper ‘mom’s knowledge of the Buffalo area. But here in the Philly area, the suburban churches are packed. Thousands of people every Sunday.
Also, you have to look at the makeup of a population rather than the total change. If a neighborhood goes from Italian to, say, black, even if the numbers hold steady, Catholic Church attendance will almost certainly decline because the black folks will be going to an AME or Baptist Church or whatever. Now if the immigrants are Hispanic that’s a different story.
Yes, there is some decline that can be attributed to urban flight, but the whole West Side has become heavily Hispanic.
We live in CNY now instead of WNY and the two populations of Catholics are different breeds, but even here, where it is MUCH more conservative, there has been discussion of consolidating three of the local Catholic parishes for years now.
It has met with much resistance from the parishioners, as you would expect, but one of the problems is that there just aren’t enough priests to go around.
The three churches they are discussing closing rotate services depending on the season.
Yep...
You know, I don’t recall ever hearing the news in Buffalo criticize anyone’s Catholic beliefs or cast the RCC in a bad light.
Claud
How many masses do you have on a week end?
When I was a kid there were no Saturday masses.. but they had a 7, 8, 9, 11 and 12 (12 was always high mass)
When I left there was a Saturday 4:30, 7pm a Sunday 9, 10:30 and 12
All masses were basically full.
Now they have combined 3 parishes and split the masses between the parishes ..(for now)
There is now a 4:30 Saturday , 8:30, 10;30 and 12.. each mass at a different church.. so basically there is one Sunday mass at churches that used to have 4 or 5 ...
They have likewise split the masses at the suburban churches in my area.. instead of 1 Saturday and 4 Sunday masses they have split and each church has 1 Sat ( one early, one later ) and 2 Sunday
There are some suburban churches that still serve only their area but even they have cut the number of Masses
We see in Europe an older church where the regular attenders are mostly senior citizens .. I am think that maybe where the RC is going here.
So, it’s really worse than it sounds, because the churches which are still open have cut back dramatically.
In that fiasco I related about when they changed serving communion from the altar rail to standing, easily HALF the people going up for communion went to the wrong place, the altar rail. That just went to show me how little your average Catholic went to mass and that was before I pretty much left the church.
Food heads up ..just heard that Watsons Candy..in Kenmore will be on the food channel tonight for SPONG CANDY ..another Buffalo only treat that travels with me :)
Watson’s mmmmmmmm.......
Mr. mm’s favorite kind of candy is sponge candy.
For all people can criticize Buffalo for a lot of things, their food is legendary.
I still haven’t figured out how Pizza Hut can survive in the Buffalo Italian food market.
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