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To: Mrs. Don-o

“What the Pope here is reiterating (for this is nothing new) is that there is no “collective guilt” particularly damning Jews -— who, like Gentiles, share in a damaged, sin-prone human nature, as do we all, and whose sins, like all of humanity’s sins, are the real burden Jesus carried as our Savior.”

Actually, there is BIBLICAL support for collective guilt.
The leadership at the time of Christ demanded that He be put to death and chose a common thief to be set free. They said, “Let his blood be upon us and upon our children.” The pope is wrong, if the article is correct.

Are they damned? No. That is a separate issue. God will again turn to Israel in the future.

“Did you read the statement?

Sure.


67 posted on 03/02/2011 1:11:23 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
First of all, "Let his blood be on us and on our children" is a yell from a frenzied crowd in Jerusalem, not a judgment from the authority of God.

Second, it is contradicted by Jesus' statement (and it IS the authority of God): "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."

Thirdly, collective sin (estrangement from God) is something we ALL carry as descendants of Adam who suffer from a defective human nature. It does not imply personal guilt for a personal act, but it does mean that we share in the hereditary defects, so to speak, which came down to us from our first ancestors.

God knows all this; and I trust Him who knows the heart, to judge rightly.

AMorePerfectUnion, God's Mercy is our hope. May He bless you always!

80 posted on 03/02/2011 2:00:19 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (In theory. there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra)
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