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To: RobRoy

No person is ever condemned to hell for their personal sins.

They are in a state of condemnation from birth as a result of Adam’s sin in the Garden. Salvation means being saved from condemnation.

All sin has been bought and paid for by Christ on the Cross. He was judged for all sin. Sin is no longer the issue. Good and evil are the issue.

We still have an old sin nature after salvation, so we are tempted and we do sin, and when we sin we fall out of fellowship with Him, but He still indwells us by His Volition.

Look at Rev 20:12,13. They are not sent to hell after looking at sin, they are sent after a review of works. We are still saved by faith alone, and not by works lest any man should boast, but those sent to hell are not sent due to personal sin (except perhaps for the sin of rejecting salvation provided by Christ, if one wants to interpret the words in that fashion).

By persevering, we await the bema seat of Christ.

When we fall out of fellowship, we risk the judgment, but our names have not been blotted out of the Book of Life.


111 posted on 03/07/2011 1:22:31 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

See, the problem is that you buy into the falsehood that is know as the ‘original sin’.

While that was the first sin, it didn’t condemn anyone other than Adam and Eve. And even they had a chance to be welcomed into the world thereafter.

Unfortunately, too many believe that the word of Paul (and Augustine) supersedes the word of G-d.


115 posted on 03/07/2011 3:42:25 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Cvengr; RobRoy; OrthodoxKirkPresbyterian
All sin has been bought and paid for by Christ on the Cross. He was judged for all sin. Sin is no longer the issue.

1Jn 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

John's comment was after Christ paid the price.

149 posted on 03/07/2011 5:06:48 PM PST by HarleyD
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