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To: tkas

When did that Jewish Law of Conversion take root?

What year in history did a :Law come about that said : If you are born a Jew, but adhere to the belief that the Hebrew Yeshua Ha-Mashiach is the Promised Messiah of Israel, you are no longer a Jew?

Is that a Biblical Law or man made law?


50 posted on 03/12/2011 7:38:57 PM PST by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: TaraP

TaraP: “What year in history did a :Law come about that said : If you are born a Jew, but adhere to the belief that the Hebrew Yeshua Ha-Mashiach is the Promised Messiah of Israel, you are no longer a Jew?”

That’s like asking where Jews rejected Muhammed. Jesus was merely a Rabbi in a marginalized reformist sect of Judaism. He wasn’t anyone that Talmudic scholars addressed. He’s not in the Torah.

To answer your question, laws of conversion require renouncing other gods, and false idols, and the tradition goes back to Abraham, and Sarah. The Talmud later addressed conversion in greater detail.

The issue isn’t conversion, it’s apostasy.

Also, what makes one an adherent of one religion, and not another? It’s not a title you can just throw around. As a religion goes, there are basic tenets that all denominations share as a belief system...and if you don’t share in those core beliefs, you are simply not of that religion. Judaism has many open ended areas open for differences and debate, but the issue of the Messiah is not one of them. Jesus is trivial for Jews, and always will be.


53 posted on 03/12/2011 8:24:55 PM PST by harmonium
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Jewish law is derived from the Torah and interpreted by the rabbis so that it can be put into practice. For instance, the rabbis instituted how we are supposed to fulfill “don’t seethe the kid in the milk of its mother”.

In my first post I told you when it became impossible to be both a Jew and a Christian. When Christianity was bringing in pagans who were not Jews, baptizing them and making them Christian. The religion broke from Jewish law and from being a religion on Jews. You don’t have to like it or agree with it. It is what Jewish law says on the subject. period.

An atheist Jew is simply a religiously lapsed Jew. I wish it weren’t so, because it seems wrong to me. It doesn’t matter if I like it or not or agree with it or not. That is Jewish law.


58 posted on 03/13/2011 8:11:09 AM PDT by tkas (Conservative mom)
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