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To: Zionist Conspirator
re: What kind of religion ....teaches its children that Mary made the sun dance but which promotes evolution and higher criticism and contempt for those who will not surrender to those abominable concepts???

The modernist/progressivist controlled “New Church” teaches that Fatima was not important, a private revelation which one can accept or reject. It is the “New Church” that promotes evolution and liberal criticism of scripture.

As you know, Robert Sungenis, the Catholic, has written extensively on the subjects of which you complain. However, even you have fallen for the progressivist tactic of discrediting him by labeling him an anti-semite.

You left a modernist/Progressivist/liberal “New Church” for Fundamentalism. I feel sorry for you, that you never saw the real Church. I was out of the church for like 30 years, but I came back directly to tradition(except for like 3 weeks), having never attended the Novus ordo during all those years, except for funerals and weddings. Deo Gratia.

100 posted on 04/06/2011 5:10:31 PM PDT by verdugo ("You can't lie, even to save the World")
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To: verdugo; Zionist Conspirator

For the record, the “modern Church” as verdugo calls it only reaffirmed what Pope Bendedict XIV [Pope from 1740 to 1758] stated as the article from the Catholic Encyclopedia linked from newadvent.org indicates:

“There are two kinds of revelations: (1) universal revelations, which are contained in the Bible or in the depositum of Apostolic tradition transmitted by the Church. These ended with the preaching of the Apostles and must be believed by all; (2) particular or private revelations which are constantly occurring among Christians (see CONTEMPLATION). When the Church approves private revelations, she declares only that there is nothing in them contrary faith or good morals, and that they may be read without danger or even with profit; no obligation is thereby imposed on the faithful to believe them. Speaking of such revelations as (e.g.) those of St. Hildegard (approved in part by Eugenius III), St. Bridget (by Boniface IX), and St. Catherine of Siena (by Gregory XI) Benedict XIV says: “It is not obligatory nor even possible to give them the assent of Catholic faith, but only of human faith, in conformity with the dictates of prudence, which presents them to us as probable and worthy of pius belief)” (De canon., III, liii, xxii, II). “

Here is a link from EWTN which also clearly makes reference to Pope Bendedict XIV’s clear teaching on this question from the 18th century:

http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/apparitions.htm

In closing, Verdugo is 100% wrong in this post.


102 posted on 04/06/2011 7:33:59 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: verdugo
The modernist/progressivist controlled “New Church” teaches that Fatima was not important, a private revelation which one can accept or reject. It is the “New Church” that promotes evolution and liberal criticism of scripture.

That appears to be all there is left. Just take a look at the "conservative Catholics" on Free Republic who insist that cosmogony is a purely scientific subject but who refuse to listen to that same scientist when he rejects a miracle they want to believe in because it's "Catholic."

As you know, Robert Sungenis, the Catholic, has written extensively on the subjects of which you complain. However, even you have fallen for the progressivist tactic of discrediting him by labeling him an anti-semite.

I used to admire Robert Sungenis. I even exchanged e-mails with him. But the man is an anti-Semite. That's not just my opinion. I've been around the block and I know the real thing when I see it.

I'm sorry that you think it isn't anti-Semitic to post a link to a site that attacks the book of Deuteronomy.

104 posted on 04/07/2011 8:46:57 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Hachodesh hazeh lakhem ro'sh chodashim; ri'shon hu' lakhem lechodshey hashanah.)
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