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To: verdugo
I know Protestants that are better Catholics than Catholics, yet that does not make them Catholic. They are outside of the Church, where their is no salvation. Hopefully, they will convert before they die.

No little band of morons gets to second guess the Church. The Church includes the congregants of the five Sees. When a splinter group walks away and loudly brays that it alone contains the wit and wisdom of all of Christendom, how does that separate it from anything that the Reformation has spawned?

As for the rest that you wrote it’s just character assasination. If god outs people in front of you that know more than you, He is giving you a nudge to elearn your faith better. To advance in knowledge. Detractions and character assasinations are the stuff of children who do not want to be bothered.

The Church says what the Church says; it is not beholden to a splinter group. Splitters and quitters do not make the rules either in the 1500s or in the 1900s. You either accept the Church or you don't. If you don't and consider your own group's doctrines and pronouncements to supersede Church doctrines and pronoucements, then you have removed yourself from the Church.

Sneering at the congregants of four of the five original Sees as non Catholic removes you from Catholic consideration and those who have asked to have you removed from any FR Catholic Caucus are absolutely correct and I back them completely. Come on back when you declare your Christianity.

148 posted on 04/17/2011 6:30:11 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: MarkBsnr

People often say, “It is better to be a good Protestant than a bad Catholic.” That is not true! That would mean that one could be saved without the true faith. No. A bad Catholic remains a child of the family, although a prodigal, and however great a sinner he may be, he still has a right to mercy. Through his faith, a bad Catholic is nearer to God than a Protestant, for he is a member of the household, whereas the heretic is not. And how hard it is to make him become one!

-St. Peter Eymard


149 posted on 04/17/2011 10:34:48 AM PDT by verdugo ("You can't lie, even to save the World")
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To: MarkBsnr

re: The Church includes the congregants of the five Sees.

And what exactly does this mean to you? Are you saying that the schismatic Eastern Orthodox are part of :

The true Church of Jesus Christ the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church (Mystici Corporis Christi, by Pope Pius XII (and the first Vatican Council)?


150 posted on 04/17/2011 10:40:11 AM PDT by verdugo ("You can't lie, even to save the World")
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To: MarkBsnr

re: No little band of morons gets to second guess the Church. ...The Church says what the Church says; it is not beholden to a splinter group. Splitters and quitters do not make the rules either in the 1500s or in the 1900s. You either accept the Church or you don’t. If you don’t and consider your own group’s doctrines and pronouncements to supersede Church doctrines and pronoucements, then you have removed yourself from the Church.

Yes, that is what exactly what the schismatic Eastern Orthodox did. We agree.


151 posted on 04/17/2011 10:43:41 AM PDT by verdugo ("You can't lie, even to save the World")
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