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The Hidden Exodus: Catholics becoming Protestants
National Catholic Reporter ^ | April 18, 2011 | Thomas Reese

Posted on 04/20/2011 12:07:28 PM PDT by AnalogReigns

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To: Lorica

Another really big factor is that it’s not socially acceptable to be Catholic these days and that has a whole lot more more bearing on many folks who leave than they’re going to ever admit.


121 posted on 04/20/2011 3:11:50 PM PDT by Rashputin (Barry is insane., so handlers keep him medicated and on the golf course.)
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To: WPaCon
I like the changes even more now!

Haha, me too!

122 posted on 04/20/2011 3:12:59 PM PDT by Lorica
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To: AnalogReigns
Thank you for posting a very interesting read.

Both groups also had almost equal numbers (82 percent evangelicals, 80 percent mainline) saying they joined their new church because they enjoyed the worship service. But compared to those who became mainline Protestants, a higher percentage of those becoming evangelicals said they left because their spiritual needs were not being met (78 percent versus 57 percent) and that they had stopped believing in Catholic teaching (62 percent versus 20 percent).

I don't expect most RC's would understand this "enjoyed the worship service". Having attended RC services and Evangelical services the difference is night and day. The Evangelical services involve opening Scripture and reading it, studying it, praying about it and the sermon, or message, is usually about 45 minutes to an hour long. You leave the service knowing more than you did going in.

My experience in attending RC services is Scripture is read without any serious consideration of it's meaning and the 15 minute message, or sermon, is a vague reference to social responsibility. You don't leave the service knowing more than when you went in.

Christians want to know Jesus.

123 posted on 04/20/2011 3:14:41 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Rashputin

It hasn’t been socially acceptable to be Catholic for a long time. I think there’s a lesson in that...

Have you ever seen a hush go over a group of non-Catholic friends when you say something like “omg, look at the time...I’m late for confession”?


124 posted on 04/20/2011 3:15:41 PM PDT by Lorica
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To: wmfights
Evangelical services... the sermon, or message, is usually about 45 minutes to an hour long.

RC services...15 minute message, or sermon

Christians want to know Jesus.

That's right. I want to know Jesus. Not the pastor.

125 posted on 04/20/2011 3:18:46 PM PDT by Lorica
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To: RnMomof7
Again God is not going to ask you what the proper is.. He is going to ask why He should admit you into heaven.. What would you as a catholic say?

Can you please supply the Scripture for that? What chapter and verse tells us that we need to answer questions to get into Heaven?

126 posted on 04/20/2011 3:19:14 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: don-o

What is your name?

What is your quest?

What is the velocity of an unladen swallow?


127 posted on 04/20/2011 3:24:19 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Campion

GMTA


128 posted on 04/20/2011 3:28:10 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: don-o; RnMomof7
He is going to ask why He should admit you into heaven.. What would you as a catholic say?

What would you say?

129 posted on 04/20/2011 3:30:10 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: SoothingDave

I thought those were the Netflix questions...


130 posted on 04/20/2011 3:31:28 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Lorica
LOL. I know what you mean, but it's to a different level these days, at least here it seems different than it used to be. Maybe it was already more noticeable elsewhere.
131 posted on 04/20/2011 3:32:38 PM PDT by Rashputin (Barry is insane., so handlers keep him medicated and on the golf course.)
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To: wmfights

Show me the Scripture for it, first.


132 posted on 04/20/2011 3:33:02 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Lorica
That's right. I want to know Jesus. Not the pastor.

I've had several family members become Born Again Christians. All I had to do was get them to decide to come to church with me. What happened in every case was they learned more about Christianity than they had ever known before and the pursuit of Truth grabbed hold of them.

I attended RC services with these family members and it was lifeless and stifling. My first time attending I was shocked I was the only one that brought a Bible. I understand that there are pamphlets with Scripture to read in the pews and there are prayers that require a specific response, but it was so ritualistic there was no life to it.

133 posted on 04/20/2011 3:40:16 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
The Evangelical services involve opening Scripture and reading it, studying it, praying about it and the sermon, or message, is usually about 45 minutes to an hour long. You leave the service knowing more than you did going in.

Are you talking about worship, or a college classroom?

Everything you're saying amounts to touting evangelical services as an intellectual growth experience for MEEEE, not an encounter with the living God. I don't go to church to "learn about Christianity"; I have access to plenty of books and the ability to read them to do that. I go to church to be at the threshold of heaven, in the presence of God, at the foot of the Cross.

134 posted on 04/20/2011 3:45:23 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: don-o; RnMomof7
Show me the Scripture for it, first.

This is why Evangelical Christians are so good at evangelizing and the RC's/EO aren't.

It's not a trick question. It's THE QUESTION non-believers seeking the Lord want to know the answer to. What would you tell them, join my church eat wafers, drink wine, do lots of good works and maybe Mary will snatch you out of purgatory on a Saturday?

135 posted on 04/20/2011 3:45:33 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Campion
I go to church to be at the threshold of heaven, in the presence of God, at the foot of the Cross.

It's a shame that you believe you need to go to church to have that.

136 posted on 04/20/2011 3:47:44 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Let’s stay on track here. It was posited that we must answer a question to God to get into Heaven. I am still awaiting Bible for that. Thank you.


137 posted on 04/20/2011 3:48:23 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: wmfights
This is why Evangelical Christians are so good at evangelizing and the RC's/EO aren't.

Catholics evangelized all of Western Europe, and then all of Latin America, and we're currently doing pretty well in sub-saharan Africa.

Not bad, considering we're no good at it.

It's THE QUESTION non-believers seeking the Lord want to know the answer to.

What, how to justify themselves before the Almighty?

The Pharisee in the parable thought he knew the answer to that question.

138 posted on 04/20/2011 3:48:52 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: wmfights
It's a shame that you believe you need to go to church to have that.

I didn't say I needed to go to church for that; I said that that's why I went to church.

I think it's a shame that y'all reduce Christianity to an intellectual exercise instead of an encounter with a real Person.

139 posted on 04/20/2011 3:51:12 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: wmfights
I attended RC services with these family members and it was lifeless and stifling.

If this is an exchange of anecdotes, I'll add mine.

I've been to a number of Protestant services, at non-denom, independent Bible churches, Wesleyan, Baptist, and Lutheran. For obvious reasons, I liked the Lutheran the best. The rest left me dry, dry, dry. Fellowship isn't worship. At least not of God.

140 posted on 04/20/2011 3:52:17 PM PDT by Lorica
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