[metmom]

In fact, it's hard to make a clear distinction between "pray" and "communicate", when we think of prayer in the broadest sense. But even with petitionery prayer, it seems to me entirely plausible that Jesus asked Mary to help him with his sandals when he was a toddler just learning to speak.

Jesus communicated with Mary. That, to me, is equivalent to prayer except that neither party has died yet.

By that logic then any time someone communicates with someone else, they are praying to them. That would mean that posting on this board, you are praying to caww.

And any time someone asked me a question, they are praying to me. Gee, I've never been prayed to by so many Catholics before. Since all NT believers are called *saints* and Catholics pray to saints, I guess I should be called Saint Metmom.

[papertyger]

Good heavens!

Learning occurring...right here before our very eyes!

[HossB86]

By that logic

Metmom - that's the problem; there is NO logic that could come close to validating their claim that "prayer is communicating."

Praying is praying, no matter how they try to explain it. Praying to anyone other than God Almighty is idolatry. And blasphemy.

Hoss

[Alex Murphy]

....any time someone asked me a question, they are praying to me. Gee, I've never been prayed to by so many Catholics before. Since all NT believers are called *saints* and Catholics pray to saints, I guess I should be called Saint Metmom.

Now remember that we're just going to venerate you, not worship you! Don't let it go to your head.

[caww]

That would mean that posting on this board, you are praying to caww.

R-e-a-l-l-y?...I blush... (chuckle) But as with Mary, not a thing I can do about answering anyones prayers. Maybe make a pie, give flowers, box of candy to make someone feel better....but the answers are all in Christ.