Posted on 06/16/2011 12:24:16 PM PDT by NYer
The Holy Spirit is incredible. You can read or hear a bit of scripture over and over again and then BAM! You get a new perspective on things. I really look forward to those moments.
I often reflect at Mass that if we really focus on what we are receiving when we are in the line to receive the Eucharist, most of us would crawl forward on our bellies, overcome with awe.
“Well, Jesus is full present in the Holy Sacrament of the Altar. “
Afraid not. He is present in you, not the mere Bread and Cup. When that wafer is made, it is not Jesus Christ until a properly ordained man declares it to be so. The wine does not become Jesus’ blood until a properly ordained man declares it to be so.
It’s all dependent on proper credentials as determined by the church. Don’t drag God into it. He is irrelevant.
This weekend at my parish.
AMEN Sister!!!!
I don’t think you have a concrete grasp of the concept of transubstantiation. The act of “declaration” neither causes or changes anything. It is not some form of “ritual magic”. As some one once said, you have the emphasis on the wrong sy-LA-ble.
McBrien again. As if he spoke with any authority. What he really means is that the idea of the Real Presence is a medieval survival and he doesn’t believe in it either. Is any mass he says valid?
But Christ is God — the second person of the Holy Trinity. I’m not understanding your post at all.
And it was simply not so. Congregations were focused on what was happening as much as today. What was striking —amd memorable—was that before the consecration there was often rustling and coughing, but then as the bells sounded, a palpable silence descended on the Church. For awhile is was as if they were not there. I once heard a cryingchild suddenly quiet, turneed to see what the mother was doing, but she was doing nothing. The child wasm simply reacting to the sudden hush.
Nowadays in much churches, there is so much noise, far too much music.
What a maroon! People who tend to spend time in Eucharistic Adoration are also the people who attend Mass, and receive Eucharist on a regular basis. They have no desire to remove themselves from the communal aspect of the Church.
McBrien doesn't like them, because they are a threat to his liberal notions for the Catholic Church. He sees all that he's stood for in the last 40 years finally being repudiated, and he can't stand it.
I think you would have to restrain sharing in communion except for the visits to an ACNA parish -- unfortunately. I wish there were more, but we can share together in prayer.
Corrected it -- for us, the consecrated Host IS the Body and blood of Jesus Christ, hence the adoration. The Adoration is to God
I assume you did not know this -- but bluntly, this is, to us, the Body of Christ, hence we adore Him as is due. you may disagree with this belief, but please note that this is worship of God.
Before I was received into the Church, I learned about the “Communion of Desire” from our priest, and it became very important to me...so now, when I’m unable to be at mass, I read the liturgy, pray, and sit quietly in the communion of desire, and am aware of the union with Christ that He makes possible during those wordless moments...the Eucharist is still paramount, just helps me through the times I can’t be there to receive the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity.
HushTX is a traditional, conservative, deeply believing Anglican brother who has voiced this issue he is facing
I think your post
Before I was received into the Church, I learned about the “Communion of Desire” from our priest, and it became very important to me...so now, when I’m unable to be at mass, I read the liturgy, pray, and sit quietly in the communion of desire, and am aware of the union with Christ that He makes possible during those wordless moments...the Eucharist is still paramount, just helps me through the times I can’t be there to receive the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity.
may help ==> HushTX, will this help?
Look right after the part in the bible that declares you should post on FR
Mr. K.:
Where did ‘must’ come into this? As far as I can tell, nobody ‘must’ adore Christ in the Blessed Sacrament (outside of the Mass,that is. If he’s not adoring during Mass, something’s up and it ain’t good.)
I LIKE to go to adoration. I pray, just sit, read my Bible, and sometimes nap. Sure, Jesus is with us wherever we are, but, as I say, I have discovered there are “consolations” when one goes to adoration. I’d only get crankedup if somebody told me I “must” NOT go.
God does good work, huh? I love it when he lives me slack-jawed in amazement.
All the time. Sometimes I forget, and then I feel like an idiot.
And at the top was every day, every minute, to offer your ministry to Jesus, whose ministry it is in any case.
I really think that counsel is what led me finally to renounce my orders and swim the Tiber. But that's neither here nor there.
My unasked for, free, and worth every penny advice is every day and every minute offer YOUR ministry to Jesus. And when things look challenging and peculiar to say, "Jesus, I trust in you," whether you feel it or not. We DO, we MUST put all our faith in Him, especially when we don't FEEL like it.
Do that, avoid sin to the extent you can, and it will all come out well.
His to haul us, kicking and screaming, through the wilderness. Ours to murmur and complain all the way.
Perhaps when we reach the Jordan He will not hold it back but oblige us to wade through the waters where once our Lord stood and we will be clean at last..... and quit our bellyaching!
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