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Dude, lying about bishops is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do with your big ten foot axe to grind. I have had complete and detailed access to finances of many wards, both currently and during the 80s and 90s, and bishops don’t get paid squat. As to “expenses”, all the ones I’ve seen (and that’s quite a few) end up not taking the few hundred dollars a year they might be entitled to for buying food for socials and such.

OK. I did some double-checking on my facts.

If your reference applied only to Lds bishops today as well Lds bishops of old, I'd say we both were wrong and we both were right.

The reason I'm partially wrong is that I made a reference to a potential $60,000 stipend paid in today's funds...and that isn't so...so I recant that claim as outdated. Stipends for Lds bishops at one time was so; not any more.

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Since your statement focuses mainly on the 1980s and 1990s, I'm going to request that you apologize for calling me a liar about the way the Lds church previously ran its finances & stipends for bishops.

My understanding is that Lds bishops were still being paid a 10% "stipend" from tithing funds as of at least 1993.

Source: "Changes in stipends for bishops and general authorities. (Bishops once received a 10% stipend from tithing funds, but are now purely volunteer.)" [See History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]

I made the following claim on an Oct. 23, 2008 FR thread -- and I stick to it: LDS Bishops are indeed lay folks who receive no salary. But as of 15 years ago, I knew of a bishop who received $40,000 (in 1993 $) as a "stipend" for expenses. Now don't get me wrong, bishops indeed incur expenses for which they need to be reimbursed. But I would betcha, were you to have surveyed Protestant pastors and Roman Catholic priests in 1993, if they were incurring personally reimbursed expenses at a rate of $40,000 per year, and you would find the bulk of them were not. Steep stipends = a partial salary.

Since bishops at one time could take a 10% stipend from tithing funds, it would not have been unheard of for $400,000 to have come in for that year.

Since I apologize for using the potential $60,000 figure based upon outdated information, I expect a return courtesy for you calling me a liar when it's documented that Lds at one time paid bishop stipends.

Not only are you mistaken with how funds were once dispersed, but calling somebody a "liar" assumes bad or malicious intent. You are engaging in mind reading.

Enjoying the show bump.

Sorry dude, I still gotta call you on this one. Your research is too detailed on the other topics, you MUST know that bishops do not get paid, even in the 80s. (Can’t speak to the 30s and before, but based on the appalling state of church finances at that time, I bet not then either). I have too much direct contact with this topic, so either you are trying to distort the truth intentionally on this point, or all of your research is suspect.