[xzins]

but I think, putting on a logical, non-denominational hat that there is a linkage and it is better not to even step on that road.

It's because Methodism has been on a long campaign with the culture to emasculate men. They don't want men with testosterone....they're not touchie-feelie enough. They want estrogenated men.

[Cronos]

But do you agree that there is a logical cause and effect? I think every other denomination should learn from this. I see with sadness that the EPC hasn’t (it just voted to allow pastoresses)