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To: ansel12
My dear, first of all breath.

Now then...you wrote “Catholics and Christians” that's about a clear a distinction as is possible in the English language. I asked you why you made the distinction and you got your panties in a knot. I suppose I could have interpreted your meaning as “I'll have fries with that” but that would be extremely difficult given the words you used.

Let's look at the history of what was posted regarding skinheads: ““I'm going to let Jesus Christ make that decision. Not some loud and well organized cabal of religious bigots.
These bigots are the equivalent of skinheads”

While the original author did not list definitions, I interpreted the comment (and agree with it) thusly: groups of people who are so emotionally invested in being against something that they cannot see how any other point of view can be held. They are vitriolic, unremitting in their overly-emotional self-rightousness, condemnation of that which they decide they do not like, agree with or understand. That was how I interpreted the post and thus why I agree with it. I stand by that agreement.

Now, going further. I do not recall defending Mormonism so much as the right of people to be Mormon if they choose. Some call them a cult - that strikes me as more from fear than anything else. I think Mormonism is odd. But it's their belief and I assume they hold it with a clear conscience. Frankly I don't understand it nor am I especially interested in understanding it. I don't want their missionaries on my property, nor do I want the Christian preachers who drag their families door to door around Easter.

An attack (your word, not mine) on some who call themselves Christian is not an attack on all who call themselves Christian. Using skinhead as interpreted above to describe some self-proclaimed Christians in now way means all self-proclaimed Christians are skinheads. It goes back to basics: A=B does not mean B=A.

I'm not sure why you wrote, “you don’t seem to have much interest in Catholics except as another tool to use in defending Mormonism.” Perhaps you could point out, specifically, where that came from.

You despise Mormons and Mormonism - we all get that. You hate Romney - we all get that.

383 posted on 07/18/2011 8:25:14 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: starlifter

I have to assume that you are female judging from your language, describing underwear as panties and calling people “dear”.

Honesty escapes you, I don’t “despise” Mormons, or “hate” Romney, or anyone else.

You on the other hand think that Protestant and Catholic Christian conservative freepers that challenge Mormonism are “skinheads”.

You describe this
‘”Catholics and Christians do know what I mean, and that is not a distinction between the two other than to make sure that everyone knows that the Catholic church, the Greek Orthodox church, and the Protestant churches are all in agreement about Mormonism.
Any Catholic that is promoting and defending Mormonism is not in agreement with his church.”’
as someone getting their “panties in a knot” which is another example of ignorance, or twisting everything in a dishonest manner to attack conservative, christian freepers.

There does not seem to be any depth that you will not sink to in defending Mormonism against Christian exposure.

Your defense of Mormonism is falling flat, as you claim that Mormonism is defensible to Christians and that to challenge it is to make a Christian a “skinhead”.


387 posted on 07/18/2011 9:03:59 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: starlifter
For a person who apparently thinks they are the smartest person in the room, how do you not get the difference between mormonISM and mormons? You are the only one specifically assigning names/anger/disgust to individuals, where as the posters who are opposed to mormonISM have not said word one against mormons.
388 posted on 07/18/2011 9:05:43 AM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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To: starlifter; ansel12; Godzilla

They are vitriolic, unremitting in their overly-emotional self-rightousness, condemnation of that which they decide they do not like, agree with or understand

You despise Mormons and Mormonism - we all get that. You hate Romney - we all get that

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Which is exactly why I posted by background. I do understand Mormonism, better than most even many Mormons. And I don’t like it, because I lived it, I found out that the church lies to its members and deceives outsiders. People are tricked into joining and the LDS church makes it hard to leave.

BTW, we despise Mormonism. And yes we hate Romeny (and with very good reason). But it would be wrong to state we hate Mormons. I have several LDS friends (who know how I feel and what I do). If we hated MORMONS we would just let them go to Hell without telling them the truth.

Mormons and their defenders are the overly emotional self righteous bunch. The Christians on here who oppose Mormonism know our righteousness isn’t self, it is in Christ.


408 posted on 07/18/2011 10:25:14 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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