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To: bronx2; markomalley
That phony IRS Pub 78 does indeed list all of the entities which want their contributors to receive a tax deduction. This document coupled with F990 which describes the nature of the entity is the empirical evidence for the existance of at least 30,000 discrete entities of evangelical persuasion

Well, it certainly is a good thing that we already know that your evidence is as flawed as a cheap diamond. You do comprehend the point that discrete "entities" does not equate to different denominations, don't you? Perhaps this conversation may help to remind you. The one you had with Markomalley back in June of last year on this very subject. I saved it because I somehow just knew we hadn't heard the last of it:

Why then are there that many volumes of Pub 78 ? Years ago it was 9 volumes but I wager it is more now. Most Catholic institutions tend to use the same EIN number but some have applied for their individual number. Each of these volumes is quite thick and the print is small. There are some secular non profit entities listed but while perusing pages years ago I noticed that the protestant churches are quite evident on randomly selected pages I made from several volumes. To obtain a number the entity must furnish and update their information some of which informs the reader of religious affiliation. I did not look at the documentation so I can not categorically state that there was not some affiliation between each entry. That would take a lifetime of research.

From BRONX2 on 6/15/10

To: bronx2

All I can say is be consistent then and identify each diocese in the world as its own denomination (both RC, EC, EO, and OO). There would, by the measure used by this group that developed the 30,000 (or 39,000 now) denominations, be somewhere over 8,000 denominations of Catholics and Orthodox. You and I both know that isn’t right. One other thing to consider regarding pub 78. My Knights of Columbus council has a charitable corporation that is registered in Pub 78. There are pages upon pages of Knights of Columbus organizations registered in that pub. How many Knights of Columbus fraternal benefit organizations are there? To my knowledge, just one. Even though each council is incorporated on its own, they are part of one large organization. I think you would see the same thing with any number of outfits that have independent chapters. You want to use “30,000” — go ahead. But just think: they have every right in the world to come back with “3,000” Roman Catholic denominations...using the same measure. And don’t ever complain if one of them does so, because they’ll be consistent with the measure you used.

18 posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:33:56 PM by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)

You can't say you weren't warned.

2,497 posted on 09/10/2011 12:32:30 AM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
What proof do you have that discrete entities do no equate to different denominations? Please provide or is this your usual self serving testimony bandied about without any evidence?

Why not take a look at the current data before making comments which question your knowledge and credibility?.Oh that's right you have never seen this documentation but still divine its content. That appears normal for your type since it appears you follow the same tactic when addressing religious topics

If you had comprehended what I wrote you would have understood it is the 990 which contains the data from which one can make cogent statements. Many statisticians do so and write internal reports for the Service which are used to make informed statements. One does not need to look at the documentation but can rely on the reports of the professionals to make credible comments.

It is important to understand the need to make educated statements as to secure credibility. Your self serving uncorroborated statements only serves to diminish your credibility.

Once you have read the Pub and the attendant 990 and the internal reports you will be able to talk in an informed manner about such areas in which you have no knowledge.

One operative phrase word for you is "Empirical evidence" and the measure of your position has been taken and found bankrupt in possessing this key ingredient both in the spiritual and secular areas.

Have a firm grasp of the subject matter and do research before making comments which are making your thoughts appear foolish

Another key ingredient is humility. Unlike this current matter it would bode well for you to read and act on Lk 14:11

God Bless

2,506 posted on 09/10/2011 7:02:53 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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