To: Belteshazzar
To each his own then. I know my history, my passion comes from the history. Just like I abhor leftist progressives rewriting history about our country's founding so goes the same for my spiritual beliefs. You can call Vermes and Ludemann crazy but within the halls of religious scholastics they are still considered giants and their work is constantly referenced.
30ad - Execution of Jesus
31ad to 69ce - establishment of James and the Jerusalem church and the original disciples there. The first assemblies of believers in Jesus' Way happen there.
50ad - Paul meets with James in Jerusalem
51ad - Paul writes his first letter/epistle
67ad - Paul dies
70ad - Destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, scattering of the 'Jerusalem Church' to various groups
71ad to 300ad - the establishment and settlement of splinter groups descended from James and the Jerusalem church (Nazarenes, Ebionites, Matteans, Nicolaitons) throughout Asia, Syria, etc.
140ad - Marcion established the first collection of Paul's letters
180ad - Irenaeus collected & accepted all Paul's letters except Philemon
300ad-330ad Emperor Constantine solidifies the labeling of heretics (nazoreans/ebionites=judaizers, etc) against the catholic church
382ad - Vetus Latina bible collective
400ad - The Latin Vulgate is published
31ad - 100ad onward, the assembly of disciples in Jerusalem taught The Way of Jesus from there. Paul's letters didn't exist yet or they weren't collected together. Paul's letters were never collected together by any of the descendants of the 'Jerusalem Church'. The same as there was never a "New Testament" bible produced by James, or the Nazoreans, the Ebionites, etc.
91 posted on
10/13/2011 11:37:31 PM PDT by
brent13a
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To: brent13a
brent13a:
“31ad to 69ce - establishment of James and the Jerusalem church and the original disciples there. The first assemblies of believers in Jesus’ Way happen there.”
Who do you mean when you say “the original disciples”?
131 posted on
10/14/2011 7:29:34 AM PDT by
Belteshazzar
(We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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