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To: Colofornian; All

I personally don’t care what this Mark Driscoll says or what the Mormon doctrine is.

I asked some Mormon missionaries if they believed in Jesus and they answered “yes”. I asked if they believed he was born of the Virgin Mary and they said “yes”.

That is good enough for me.

If you all want to be like the pharisees and sadducees and argue law then fine. It just makes you bitter in my opinion. There is more to life and religion than arguing like pharisees and sadducees. There is the faith of the person. That is what God sees in the end, as should we all. So instead of asking Mormons all this doctrine, just ask if they believe in Jesus? If that one person says “yes” be content with that.


59 posted on 10/19/2011 1:32:03 PM PDT by Morgana ("Since using your shampoo my hair has come alive!" ----Medusa)
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To: Morgana
That is good enough for me.

So you really do not care about any EXTRA little things they may believe in?


Here is MORMONism's own creed:
 
 

Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith


 

60 posted on 10/19/2011 2:31:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Morgana; Colofornian
So instead of asking Mormons all this doctrine, just ask if they believe in Jesus? If that one person says “yes” be content with that.

LOL, perhaps you SHOULD pay more attention to doctrine morgana - it is a scriptural mandate.

Why else would the bible warn about false prophets and teachers preaching a false Christ - those apostles would be foolish in your expressed view.

Mormon leaders THEMSELVES are on record as saying that the Jesus THEY recognize as mormons is different from the Jesus of Christianity. Ponder that for a minute.

Is Jesus the Second Person of the Trinity - or just one of a plethora of gods and godesses? Yep - who Jesus is IS important and not just a name.

63 posted on 10/19/2011 2:47:47 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Morgana; Colofornian; All

pharisees and sadducees?

LOL

The main gripe with LDS is their claim that all of us are apostates and whores of Babylon.

They have griped about Christianity for 150 years and now all of the sudden, so they can mainstream their religion, they are now Christian?

Notice, they “are Christian”. Never “I am a Christian too” or “I am a Christian like you”.

They always use the term in its objectified and exclusionary form “I am Christian” (you are not).

Now, it would be just so great of LDS would go through a reformation and become part of the larger body of Christ but they can’t. Otherwise there is no restored church and LDS becomes irrelevant or diluted.

When they stop running the rest of us into the ground I’ll get over it.

Until then, I don’t believe they are the one true church, they have ordinances and keys(giving them some kind of power I have yet to observe), their rites, rituals and handshakes are absolutely Masonic(I am a Mason), They believe in direct contradiction to God that well... they can become a god and since God is a jealouse, never sees another beside him, etc. I just don’t see how that kind of thinking is going to work out well.

At least Pharaoh figured it out after taking it on the chin a few times.


65 posted on 10/19/2011 3:02:29 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Morgana
So instead of asking Mormons all this doctrine, just ask if they believe in Jesus? If that one person says “yes” be content with that.

Too bad you weren't there when Jesus gave the Sermon on the Mount, you could have corrected him on the spot.

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.' Matthew 7:21-23

67 posted on 10/19/2011 3:14:30 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: Morgana
I personally don’t care what this Mark Driscoll says or what the Mormon doctrine is. I asked some Mormon missionaries if they believed in Jesus and they answered “yes”. I asked if they believed he was born of the Virgin Mary and they said “yes”. That is good enough for me.

You know the Muslims "believe" in the prophet Isa -- otherwise known as Jesus. He is mentioned more than once in the Quran. Muslims also believe in the virgin Mary -- also mentioned in the Quran.

(Of course, the Muslims don't regard Isa as the "Son of God" -- just as a great prophet).

So...tell you what...next time you meet some Muslims...just ask them if they think Jesus was a holy man, a prophet, and if they believe in his virgin birth. (They'll say, "Yes")...

Then, you, too can be content with that...no matter how many of their followers express "Jihad."

Oh, and if anybody you encounter actually has the gall to object to Islamic Jihad...just preach @ 'em like you've done here...Just tell them:

"If you all want to be like the pharisees and sadducees and argue law then fine. It just makes you bitter in my opinion. There is more to life and religion than arguing like pharisees and sadducees. There is the faith of the person."

And then you can just go on your merry little Pollyannish way...just taking all these spiritual realities @ purely face value...

68 posted on 10/19/2011 3:17:55 PM PDT by Colofornian (Anyone who can be duped by Joseph Smith can be duped by anyone.)
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To: Morgana

asked some Mormon missionaries if they believed in Jesus and they answered “yes”. I asked if they believed he was born of the Virgin Mary and they said “yes”.
_____________________________________________

Any Moslem could have told you the same thing...

You only asked the safe questoions

next time ask the questions that require a full explanation...

Other than a “Yes” that could mean anything

and something different to you than it does to them...

“Do you believe in (the mormon) jesus?”

“Yes”

of course they believe in the mormon jesus who was a man who earned hois way to godhood just like his father, grandfather, great grand father infinitum did

His father lives on the planet Kolob with his many wives and children and is a polygamist just like his son, the mormon jesus..

“Was he born of the Virgin Mary”

“Yes”

The mormon jesus was a product of the mormon god who came down to Earth from Kolob and had physical sex with the Virgin Mary who because she had sex with NO MAN but a god (though a man-turned-god he was still a god according to the mormon mindset and noit a man)So Mary got to stay a virgin...

The early Mormons poopooed the idea that Mary got pregnant without any sex act involved...

So they said their mormon jesus was concieved the same way they had been...

Especially since such blasphemy upset Catholics and Protestants alike..

The Mormons hated Christianity and made up any heresy theyh could think of to spit in the eyes ofg the God of the Christian Bible...

Their doctrines contain all Ten Commandments but broken...

For “Thou shalt not commit adultry” Exodus 20:14 the Mormons said only men who practice the “new and everlasting covenant” (polygamy) get to be gods...

and so on...

See ???


76 posted on 10/19/2011 5:31:29 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Morgana; xzins; Colofornian; Quix; Buggman; Godzilla
I asked some Mormon missionaries if they believed in Jesus and they answered “yes”. I asked if they believed he was born of the Virgin Mary and they said “yes”. That is good enough for me.

The Jesus that you believe in, would he be the half brother of Satan and the literal physical offspring of God the Father and Mary?

The God that you believe in, would that be a god who was once a man on another earth who was later exalted to the position of God by a council of the gods on the planet Kolob?

And by by being born of the Virgin Mary, would that include a god who came down from heaven and had sexual relations with the Virgin Mary and that Jesus was conceived from that relationship?

Or would you not agree that anyone who believed that nonsense was NOT a Christian?

80 posted on 10/19/2011 7:44:20 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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