Posted on 10/23/2011 6:23:05 PM PDT by hiho hiho
No. No sign of peace, no guitars, either. Just an organ at most masses, except when they do a mass by Mozart or another composer. Then mostly it’s strings.
You have to look but there are churches that preach the Word. I am one that exposes the cult of liberalism and simply goes from one end of the Bible to the other. Speaks the truth and is stuffed to the rafters.
Pray for America
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I’m not one to talk about football either but I’d prefer that to a lazy, uncreative, emotive Bush bash at every staff meeting as I experienced in the last office I worked in.
You need to be more surreptitious... well, at least I though I was:)
I’m glad there are more choices available. I live in a small city (~90K) and we have 3 Catholic churches. The most conservative one is actually on the local University campus. It has a latin mass once in a great while but I’ve been away each time. Hope to experience it one day.
Personally, I quit going to church because 2 out of 3 sermons in almost every church I’ve ever been were variations on a theme: Why God wants you to write me a check. Why you’ll be bless if you tithe. Why you’ll be blessed if you write me a check above your tithe. Why tithing isn’t enough. God needs your dollars to spread his word, give more. Since I saw almost no change from church to church, I gave before I found a preacher who just said, “Stick’m up” on Sundays.
Wit aside, I’ve never attended a church who’s predominate theme wasn’t money money money.
If I may my Pastor Steve Smothermon of Legacy Church here in Albuquerque just did and excellent Sermon on why men don’t go and how the church has failed in reaching out to men and what God really expects of men who serve. The sermon which is part 9 (10/16/11) in a series called ‘We Are’ can be watched here in the Sermon Archives:
http://www.legacychurchnm.com/index.cfm/PageID/1589/index.html
Does the priest face the congregation while saying the Mass or is his back to the people as it used to be?
The worst horrors for me were the folk masses in the 70’s. I despised them.
When did Christianity become Muslim, ‘cause I'm reading alot of “everything wrong with the Church is women's fault”
Which leads me to ask do you really feel this way about your Mother? Your Wife? Your Daughter?
Does any man here actually consider that the feminizing of the Church began because women know that the Lord isn't against them?
Women were made as helpmate to Man. Not property, not Servants...Helpmates.
Men need to grow a pair, and actually start acting like Men, and not d#cks.
You will love the Latin Mass! My granddaughter sings in the Latin Mass Church downtown in Chicago, and they sing in Latin, of course. The Church is crowded at every Mass.
I think feminization steeped in libreralism has alienated men from their own communities. In the past such engagement offered at least the reward of feeling appreciated. I think that incentive is severely weakened among all community institutions and this is by design.
We just had our “tithing” sermon at our church today. Talked more about all of the good things that are happening and can be done with our gifts than about any “guilt trip” about it. Preacher says that it had been two years since he gave his last “tithing” sermon - and that sounded about right.
Oh, and when the plate goes around, it is always announced that “If you are a guest here - just let it pass by you. You are our guest.”
At the church I grew up in, the pastor figured that to have men come it had to be on time and short services. Services were 50 minutes long. Perhaps a 5 minute sermon! 10 minutes in between the services to move the hundreds of cars in and out (five services). I now appreciate longer services - but the lack of punctuality bugs me a lot.
A lot of men get out of the habit of worship when they’re young and single because the teaching about sexual abstinence outside of marriage is too hard for them to accept. When they get married and have kids, yes, maybe then they’ll go back. But maybe not. The years have passed and they’re out of the habit. It’s hard to get back into that state of submittedness, unless there’s a real wake-up call, or unless the preacher is really, really anointed and knows how to touch hard hearts.
My church is evangelical presbyterian. Best I can tell, we are about 50-50 in the gender ratio. Straight uncompromising gospel every Sunday. Membership is booming.
Liberals are welcome there, but I haven’t met one yet.
Bookmark for tomorrow morning.
Men do not put up with other men telling them how to worship.
The priest does not face the congregation in the Latin Mass. It’s just as it was before Vatican II.
It’s not anti-female. The church used to be male dominated. It smelled of rich incense, the buildings were solid, not decorated with fru-fru. In the last 50 years the church has become feminized, out went the chanting, incense and solid-oak paneling — in came love songs, scented candles and yes, curtains.
I have noted that when something bad happens men need a formal dignified ritual. At 9/11 fireman escorted the bodies of the fallen colleagues out with great care and ceremony. The great unceasing ritual at the Tomb of the Unknown reeks of testosterone. On the deck of the Titanic the true men did not fight the women for life jackets, they changed into their dinner jackets to meet their inevitable fate with dignity. This is since of order is something that males understand and need.
If the premise of this article isn’t drivel, as some have suggested, I think you’ve hit on the problem.
Catholic or Protestant, the Mass or the Lord’s Supper, too many church meetings have drifted away from Christ.
The Lord’s Supper is the gift and work of God, given to the Church as the central organizing principle for corporate worship. It centers us upon the Lord Jesus Christ and Him crucifed, so that in all things He may have the preeminence.
Any church that ignores the Lord by neglecting the Lord’s Supper is bound to become cold. And for Protestants that usally means their worship either drifts into arid moral discourse or it turns to the excess of fleshly exuberance that is the modern praise format centered upon musical entertainment.
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