[mitch5501]

"Many preachers preach sermons full of horse poop, because they have never lived. And the service is designed to take away initiative, punish real thought, and numb men into pathetic dykes with balls instead of being the men God calls to action."

I hate to say it but I do agree with some of what you're saying here.I haven't been to any church for a long time and I wonder wether thinking the taking of initiative,the punishing of real thought or just the plain numbing effect is something I use as a reason for holding at arm's length what being a man of action might entail.Maybe up-ending tables?

[Mr Rogers]

The glimpses we have of the New Testament church indicates a much more participatory meeting than the typical SBC one. The evening services we have are, to my way of thinking, much better than the morning service. It is basically a Bible study led by the pastor, but allowing folks to comment & to ask questions and share their experiences.

I did a bit of test & acquisition work for the US Air Force before I retired. I’d go to meetings at Lockheed where engineers would be discussing stuff. And yes, although it was my work and important to me, listening to someone drone for an hour is painful.