All Souls' Day: Praying for the dead is a Christian duty

Southern Fried Catholicism ^ | 11/2/2011 | Brad Noel

[madison10]

Praying for the dead is a waste of time. It is the living that need our prayers.

[cuban leaf]

Once someone is dead, they are out of our “prayer” hands. It’s up to God at that point.

Unless you’re mormon, but that is a very different god.

[cuban leaf]

I just noticed it quotes Maccabees.

That may explain their position.

[rzman21]

Ignorance.

[stuartcr]

Seems that God would alerady know where they’re going.

[justice14]

Good and correct post. Thanks.

[knarf]

Jesus said "Let the dead bury the dead"

If in this article "reasonable" conclusions are drawn, so too reasonable conclusions can be drawn ... the dead are dead and need no Savior ... just buried.

We have Moses and the prophets ... let us bgelieve the Scriptures.

[Responsibility2nd]

All Souls' Day: Praying for the dead is a Christian CATHOLIC duty

Fixed it.

[rovenstinez]

ACTUALLY I think that the dead are praying for us.

[Obadiah]

Praying for the dead suggests that once they pass this life that we, or they, can alter their just reward. That then suggests that salvation, and Christ’s work on the cross, was unnecessary because once we die if enough people pray passionately for them then their outcome can change. I do not hold this to be the case.

[stuartcr]

Isn’t there just one God?

[SZonian]

Ignorance can be cured, arrogance on the other hand...

[Salvation]

II Maccabees 12:43-46: "And making a gathering, he [Judas] sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection, (For if he had not hoped that they that were slain should rise again, it would have seemed superfluous and vain to pray for the dead,) And because he considered that they who had fallen asleep with godliness, had great grace laid up for them. It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins."

II Maccabees 12:43-46, this is a part of the Bible that Luther took out, but it is a part of the Catholic Bible.

[utahagen]

Why would it be a “waste of time” to pray that someone who has committed suicide does not go to Hell?

[Uri’el-2012]

Hbr 9:27 And inasmuch as it is appointed for men
to die once and after this comes judgment,

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[cuban leaf]

—Isn’t there just one God?—

Yes. That is why I used a lower case “g”.

[madison10]

Why would it be a “waste of time” to pray that someone who has committed suicide does not go to Hell?

They've already died. No prayer from people, no matter how sincere, is not going to help that person who has committed suicide. Although, I do not assume that just because a person commits suicide they are automatically bound for h3ll. No where in the Bible is it suggested that one can pray for the salvation of those already passed from this earth.

As in the story of the rich man and Lazarus, there is no communication for, or with,the dead to the living.(the witch and Saul are not the type of communication of which I speak)

[Alex Murphy]

Why would it be a “waste of time” to pray that someone who has committed suicide does not go to Hell?

It's only a waste of time (assuming suicide sends one to Hell) if they're already dead yet not already there. Is there a "purgatory" for the Hell-bound?

[cuban leaf]

—II Maccabees 12:43-46, this is a part of the Bible that Luther took out, but it is a part of the Catholic Bible.—

I can see why he took it out.