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To: Religion Moderator
Do not accuse another Freeper of lying. It attributes motive, the intent to decieve. It is "making it personal." Words such as "wrong" "false" "error" do not attribute motive.

With appropriate respect, "lying" is the proper word. The poster spread vicious lies and slander about Orthodox Judaism, which almost certainly came from his/her own sick imagination and/or prejudices. It is absurdly inconceivable that a convert to Orthodox Judaism would describe a "conversion" ceremony that involved standing naked and having water poured over her in front of men, or spitting on a Bible. No such ceremony exists, and such a ceremony would violate at least a half a dozen Torah commands. It is nearly akin to someone saying "a Jewish friend of mine told me that they add a ceremonial drop of Christian virgin blood to Passover matzah" or "a Jewish friend of mine told me that Jews like to stab the consecrated host." It is far, far more probable that the poster himself/herself invented this lie to spread vicious falsehoods about Jews and Judaism. I have no tolerance for that crap, and neither should FR.

107 posted on 11/06/2011 5:54:20 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew (.)
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To: ChicagoHebrew; Mandingo Conservative
The poster at #26 says he is retelling something told to him. Assuming the claim is viciously false, then the one who intended to deceive, the liar, is whoever told him the story.

The story reminds me of claims made about Mormon temple ceremonies and the anointing of private body parts. And likewise Mormon Freepers may accuse the poster of vicious error but he must not read the other Freeper's mind, i.e. that he intended to deceive.

Flame wars easily ignite when posters turn from issues to persons. Condemning the statement in no uncertain terms is not "making it personal." Debunking it is not "making it personal." Telling the poster he has been fed false information is not "making it personal."

112 posted on 11/06/2011 8:41:45 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Hehe. Sure seems to me that, given recent developments, a whole bunch of zotted posters are owed an apology and should be invited back from exile to Stormfront!


118 posted on 11/06/2011 10:40:45 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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