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To: QBFimi

A lady here in NYC who was Catholic and converted to Orthodox Judaism told me the day of her conversion she had to stand naked in front on 3 rabbis and they poured water over her naked body and did not allow her to dry. Then she had to spit on the Bible and blaspheme Jesus in a disgusting ceremony. Then she was accepted into the Jewish faith. This is someone I know for years and would not lie.


26 posted on 11/04/2011 9:35:50 PM PDT by Mandingo Conservative (Satan was like the first "community organizer", just ask Eve, the first liberal useful idiot!)
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To: Mandingo Conservative

Boy howdy, did she pick the wrong sect of Judaism. Guess what, her Rabbi’s are the same guys this story is about.

Now I know a Rabbi that clearly stated that Jesus was most likely the Messiah ben Joseph who was prophcied to come for the gentiles. He is waiting for Messiah ben David who is coming for the Jews.

Kinda knows his Bible rather well, I think. Those Anti-Christian types are clueless when it comes to the Tanach, but know the commentarys of their sect like the back of their hands. I think that is called a cult.


47 posted on 11/05/2011 3:51:19 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Mandingo Conservative; jjotto; blasater1960; wideawake
A lady here in NYC who was Catholic and converted to Orthodox Judaism told me the day of her conversion she had to stand naked in front on 3 rabbis and they poured water over her naked body and did not allow her to dry. Then she had to spit on the Bible and blaspheme Jesus in a disgusting ceremony. Then she was accepted into the Jewish faith. This is someone I know for years and would not lie.

::Sigh:: It's almost impossible to argue against an anecdote. Unfortunately, that doesn't prevent the anecdote, even if untrue, from poisoning people's minds.

The three ritual components of a Halakhic coversion are 1)circumcision (which doesn't apply to females), 2)immersing in a miqvah, and 3)bringing a qorban to the Temple in Jerusalem (not possible at this time). I have never heard of any such thing as you describe.

May I ask what you mean by "spitting on a Bible?" What do you mean by "Bible?" You're not referring to a Rabbinic TaNa"KH or a translation of one, are you? Because I can't imagine any Orthodox Jew engaging in such a thing.

61 posted on 11/05/2011 5:18:43 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Mandingo Conservative
A lady here in NYC who was Catholic and converted to Orthodox Judaism told me the day of her conversion she had to stand naked in front on 3 rabbis and they poured water over her naked body and did not allow her to dry. Then she had to spit on the Bible and blaspheme Jesus in a disgusting ceremony. Then she was accepted into the Jewish faith. This is someone I know for years and would not lie.

Then you are lying. I know a lot about conversion to Orthodox Judaism, and personally know many converts, both male and female. Nothing you said remotely resembles the truth.

74 posted on 11/06/2011 9:46:27 AM PST by ChicagoHebrew (.)
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To: Mandingo Conservative
One thing I must say, is that there is NO way any sect of judaism would ever have a naked woman stand before Rabbis, Rabbis are very very careful about the separation between women and men.

Women and men do not even sit together in the synagogue! As for the water thing, the mickva bathing ceremony is ALWAYS preformed by immersion not pouring, (that is a christian thing, not a Jewish thing), so at least two points of what she said is a non starter from a Jewish cultural standpoint.

So, in reality, the “witness” has lied her way into a point of no credibility half way through her statement. And from what I know of Jews, they show an incredible respect for others beliefs. They would not desecrate a Bible or a Koran for that matter.

Did you know that the Old Testament is the Tanach? Their Bible? For her story to be true, they would have had her desecrate their own holy writs.

Does not make a bit of sense to me. I am afraid that its...(drum roll inserted here) BS Meter time!


99 posted on 11/06/2011 3:24:45 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Mandingo Conservative

Either you are a liar or the convert is.

That story is total BS. Never happened. Rabbis cannot be in front of naked women who are not their wives. They aren’t interested in Jesus or the NT.


131 posted on 12/03/2011 7:03:36 AM PST by dervish (female candidates: the last frontier)
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