The sad piece of this debate is that it seems that more people now believe reconstructed tales that claim to represent reality than those who know the truth based on the facts.
I wonder if it will take the destruction of western civilization to wake people up. And,if that happens, I wonder if any of those persons who are so eager to destroy the Church will apologize for not truly seeking the truth but instead spent their time and energy stopping the pursuit of truth. Some are just protecting the world they have come to feel comfortable in without putting much thought into it lest they have to change their mind set or world view, others don't have a clue about history,philosophy and the the machinations of men with agendas and are relative innocents in a world they didn't make and then there are those who who know exactly what is going on and have a huge investment in the new world they seek to establish with man in charge.
The problem with the Internet is one never knows the motivation of the person/s one is chatting with and I know at least that I need to be careful to not hurt an innocent by some acerbic remark,or amuse a puppet master by explaining something they already knew but are anxious to get their next unsubstantiated non-fact into the conversation,or to ruffle the feathers of one who does not want to be disturbed by actually thinking about what really did happen. Oh well,I just ask the Holy Spirit to not let me write or say anything that would turn a person away from our Triune God and hope for the best. I haven't been saying much for the last few years.
Anyway thanks again for your great posts and comments.
When in a thread about jews spitting on people in orthodox robes, and when it is pointed out the offense some jews have with orthodox you go into a long apologetic about the inquistion about how it only burned catholics (or jews pretending to be catholics) only to launch into a diatribe about hidden agendas?
It does not look like repentance, what is situation warrents, nor mercy which the situation demands, but pride and arrogance.
Please, heart check here. You both were handed a chance to heal on a silver platter and you chose your Orthodoxy.
Is that not the problem? When Church triumps faith?