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To: patlin

patlin wrote:
Gen 4:26 has absolutely NOTHING to do with a religious ecclesia. You might be interested to know that “began to call upon” is NOT quite what Christendom doctrine claims it to be. The Hebrew word Christendom translated as ‘began’ is “chalal” pronounced ‘khaw-lal’ and its meaning is “to profane”. The word “name” is ‘shem’ which also means authority, honor. Given the fact that Cain had just killed his brother and he then took 2 wives (1st case of polygamy)and also the fact that YHVH had been speaking with them all along, a proper interp of Gen 4:26 would be “at this time began men to profane the honor & authority of YHVH”

So, “chalal” is translated twice in the same sentence, once by “began” and once by “to profane,” the first as a past tense and the second as an infinitive? And “liqr’o” is left untranslated? And “shem” is translated with two words with an “and” between them instead of the usual one like other words? That is quite the scholarly observation. I guess I never understood “proper interp” before. Thanks for the demonstration.


24 posted on 11/07/2011 6:21:20 AM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Belteshazzar
So, “chalal” is translated twice

No, 'chalal' doesn't appear 2x. The word for 'began' is a different word and was interpreted as 'then'. 'Began' is 'az' (awz) and is actually encompassed in the word 'then' which is 'az'(awz)

אזH227 then / הוחלH2490 began / לקראH7121 men to call / בשׁםH8034 upon the name / יהוה׃H3068 of the LORD

5 words in Hebrew were translated into 11 English words. Anyone who wishes to interpret Scripture properly in order to really understand what YHVH is telling us needs to have at minimum, Hebrew/English & Greek/English Interlinear Bibles as well as study Hebrew idioms. Yah's language is multi-dimentional. Layers upon layers and the reason it was originally given in pictures.

Studying the Scriptures deeper, taking the words back to their origins, is what opened my eyes to much of the heresy of the religious doctrine I had been following blindly. I 1st tried going to my local pastor, but he told me that YHVH's Hebrew language was irrelevent while admitting that he had never even studied the Scriptures in their original Hebrew. Just like the libs treat our Constitution as a living breathing document, this pastor told me that the meaning of the words in the Bible change as man & times change and progress. This was my 'Red Flag' moment when YHVH opened my heart to His truth & His language.

If one wishes to truly understand the words of our Jewish Messiah, one must study the Scriptures he spoke in the language he spoke them in; which is Hebrew.

34 posted on 11/07/2011 7:15:13 AM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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