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To: pastorbillrandles
" ... neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. "

When Eve decided to rely on her own interpretation of the Word without any regard for how Adam understood the Word she was already disobeying God by usurping the authority God had given to Adam. Once she refused to acknowledge the authority of Adam. She had become a usurper and would inevitably seek to usurp the authority of God as well.

The real subtlety of the Serpent wasn't how he presented temptation. It was in speaking directly to Eve while ignoring Adam and thereby recognizing her usurpation of authority as legitimate. Once Eve had been flattered by being recognized as the highest authority on His Word, simply suggesting to Eve that eating from the tree would grant her authority equal to God was all it took. She had already decided there was no reason to stop with just ignoring the authority God had placed over her when she could just as easily ignore the authority of God as well.

10 posted on 11/20/2011 1:33:17 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Rashputin

Your view is refreshing and interesting .


12 posted on 11/20/2011 1:50:28 AM PST by johngrace (1 John 4!- declared at every Sunday Mass.)
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To: Rashputin

Eve didn’t heed the word of God but listened to another who came to kill/rob/destroy (the word) who said ‘did God really say?’. Eve thought there was more (than His word) and it was the word that was there for her protection. That same deception is used today. Nothing new under the sun.


27 posted on 11/20/2011 8:43:02 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Rashputin

But God did not curse them until Adam ate the fruit. I wonder what would have happened if he said NO....


42 posted on 11/20/2011 11:58:09 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Rashputin
I think there are several things taught in these few scriptures. The woman said, "Yes, we are neither to eat it nor touch it. But God said nothing about touching it. Man's first perversion of the scripture....in essence writing her own scripture....and it has been going on ever since. But the question, "Did God say you are not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil? First cast a doubt. Infer that God does not know what he is saying...or infer he is lying,...or infer that he is holding back information....but by all means...cast the doubt. It is a tried and true tactic as old as the garden itself.

The serpent then gets bold as says, "God knows that in the day that ye eat thereof your eyes will be open and you shall be as God." Now we see that there is a secret which God held back...a secret 'gnosis' which initiates, if clever enough to acquire, can allow godhood. The desire for godhood is as old as the garden of Eden. It is the goal of the New Age Movement, the Evolutionist (taken to its logical conclusion), the Mormon, the Hindu, the Buddhist, the Aquarian conspiracy, the Humanist, the Devil himself ('I shall be like the most high'), nature worshipers, witches, and most of the occult, and many, many others who buy into this deception and desire to be God. But, it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of an angry God. Despite the warnings man still seeks to be a god.

Finally, it is implied, not explicitely stated, that that which was hidden, that secret gnosis which could be obtained from eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil....that knowledge comes to the tree from the ground,.....from the earth...and thus the wisdom of 'Mother Earth' (a term, by the way, derived from paganism and nature worship, or naturalism, and one which has been given the emprimature of kindliness and wisdom).

I would only add that in the end times perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of themselves, covetous, boasters, proud, blastphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affections, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God, having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof; from such turn away. (Those last few sentences could have been taken from the headlines of the Dallas Morning News or Washington Post or New York Times of today....but those sentences came from another source, much more up-to-date).

86 posted on 11/21/2011 12:05:44 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: Rashputin

Eve was not there when ADAM was told not to eat from the tree.

Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Notice what is told to Adam

Gen 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

Adam knew exactly what was told to him and he ate it anyway.
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:


114 posted on 11/21/2011 10:26:35 PM PST by Lera
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