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To: time4good

“Additionally, what exactly are you saying regarding the AntiChrist - when will his time be? Are you saying he WON’T make a deceitful covenant with the Jews who are wrongly looking for The Messiah? You DO realize that their deception has much to do with their blindness in thinking atonement with sacrifices must still be made - thus the nature of the discussion regarding the AoD standing in the Temple?”

Answer:

Most Dispensationalists go to the Book of Revelation to constrive their ‘seven year deal’ with ‘the Antichrist’. But, there are two peculiar things about this: a) Revelation does not mention ‘the Antichrist’, and b) there is no ‘seven year deal’ mentioned anywhere in Revelation.

In fact, if the Truth be known, there is no seven year ‘anything’ mentioned in Revelation. (Check it out for yourself - don’t listen to false teachers.)

So, all of this Dispensationalism is merely speculative thinking. It is created by the cunning mind of man.

- Where does the Bible mention antichrist?

Antichrist is ONLY used four times in the Bible. It is used in the letters of I and II John.

- What do these verses actually say?

I John 2

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

I John 4

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

II John 1

7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Notice a few obvious things here:

a) That antichrist was present back then, in the 1st century, when John instructed his followers (proof text: I John 2: 18). Therefore, Dispensationalists argue counter to the Bible that thier ‘antichrist’ can be ‘only future’ (to us).

b) That antichrist is NOT a flesh and blood person, but rather a spirit. A spirit that inhabits ALL who deny Christ. The spirit is not singular as in ‘the’ antichrist, but rather plural in MANY who do not believe. Proof text: I John 4: 3.

So, when Dispensationalists weave their scheme through Revelation, know that this interpretation is completely contrived out of whole cloth. It is not a Scriptural reading of God’s Word.

In all mercy, I pray that you will repent of your Dispensational sin.


128 posted on 11/27/2011 6:24:33 AM PST by Iggles Phan
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To: Iggles Phan; time4good
Most Dispensationalists go to the Book of Revelation to constrive their ‘seven year deal’ with ‘the Antichrist’. But, there are two peculiar things about this: a) Revelation does not mention ‘the Antichrist’, and b) there is no ‘seven year deal’ mentioned anywhere in Revelation.

We all know that the "seven year deal" is synthesized out of a required re-interpretation of the seventy weeks to completely delete the last and most important week - the ministry of our LORD for the first half, and the second half by the disciples in Judea before the Paraclete (at the end of the seven years) sent them out unto the whole world, and to substitute that week of our LORD's ministry into a week of the alleged Antichrist's ministry.

One can successfully argue that when given the chance, Dispensationalists will replace Jesus Christ with Satan at every critical time in prophetic history. They maliciously attribute to "the antichrist" confirming the Covenant, and then rob God of the climax of His work in the last week (his Incarnation, Ministry, Death & Resurrection), only to bestow it upon their Father the Devil as his time of "ministry".

As for 1 and 2 John, you are tossing pearls before swine - they don't read the Bible like you, me and thousands of years of faithful believers - they watch TV and subscribe to newsletters that tell them what they want to hear.

If you view this thread objectively, they are firmly convinced in several gross lies. They reject the historical fact that the Great Tribulation already occurred in and about 70AD. They completely reject the fact that in Christ there are no divisions of the Church between Old Covenant (that doesn't save) Jews, and New Covenant, "the parenthesis" Church. I doubt that they can properly classify the Pharisee Paul as "Jew" or "Christian" under their system since to do so breaks the "logic" of Christ having to deal with "the Jews" hundreds of generations after the sin (the crucifixion) of their ancestors.

They must believe in a 'Second Fall' of regenerated Christians who spent the last seven years in a cosmic rave in order to subscribe to their Millennial Kingdom - this means they must, by necessity, reject the Doctrines of Grace and the Doctrines of Redemption.

They also believe that people can be saved and understand Scripture without the Paraclete (1 Cor 2:14) or else the whole "two prophets" thing doesn't make any sense.

They also must believe that none of the Prophets spoke of Jesus Christ (outside of Isaiah for a couple chapters), never established themselves as prophets by telling of near events that were fulfilled, never saw the Church, never saw the expansion of the Gospel to the whole world, and at no time ever was of particular use to anyone of faith since ALL of the prophecies can only be observed and recognized by those who hate God and would never read the Scriptures (since allegedly ALL Christians, infants, retards and the insane are "raptured" up to heaven)

I have a difficult time trying to find any doctrine that Dispensationalism doesn't attempt to crush under the weight of its vain glorification of Satan.

190 posted on 11/28/2011 6:29:26 AM PST by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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