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If Mormonism is 'anti-Christian,' then how can it be considered 'Christian?'
Colofornian | Dec. 13, 2011 | Colofornian [Vanity]

Posted on 12/13/2011 7:53:56 AM PST by Colofornian

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To: Elsie
 

Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

101 posted on 12/15/2011 4:13:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Godzilla

102 posted on 12/15/2011 4:16:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: restornu; Saundra Duffy; Ripliancum; Normandy; Jeff Head
So what is the name of your anti Mormon web site on line or do you work for one? You should get a nice size bonus this Christmas for all of the propaganda you posted this year.

Resty, I love you. I really do. Not being sarcastic. You are already "worthy" in God's eyes. Not because of anything you've done. But because you are a person of tremendous worth.

Of such worth, Jesus Christ died for ALL of your sins (and mine) and for your sin nature you had at birth -- a sin nature that was mine as well.

He did that because of His graciousness. He freely extends that grace -- as free as the loving gifts your own parents gave you at any Christmas as you grew up. Because He loves you like your parents did; only infinitely more.

Your parents didn't give you conditional Christmas gifts. They loved you because you were you. And if you've been a parent, you know that from experience. Think of the pure love in your heart when/if you've gifts to your child/children.

(Saundra, Ripliancum, Normandy, Jeff...the same above is so for you as well)

Restornu, I know you want to superimpose false motives on why somebody does what they do. It's easier to explain someone having $ motives than to think they do so for the plain reason of truth and tough love.

Restornu, there's no linkage $-wise to anything I've posted.
I don't charge anybody for anything.
No Mormon article I've posted links back to any Web site I've had a hand in constructing or leading.
I receive no compensation other than what the Lord Himself gives me DIRECTLY. (He Himself is my "compensation" - my Treasure -- in life)
Although I see nothing wrong were somebody to do this and tell their supporters about their ministry to Mormons, I don't even do that.

Truth is truth. The Living Truth (Jesus, John 14:6) is Living Truth. Just as we follow Him wherever He goes, and bow down at His Great Name, we follow truth where it leads and serve its bidding.

If you want to accuse me of spreading "propaganda," I cannot make you stop uttering falsehoods. If you believe it's "propaganda," it's up to you to try to prove it.

Most of the time you and your fellow Mormons don't even try that course. Instead, on occasion, some of you resort to spreading false motives, another sin. I forgive you for spreading a false rumor. I forgive you for impugning my inner motives.

Restornu, one of the great things about this forum is that I've been able to meet people like you and Saundra and Ripliancum and Normandy and Jeff. You are real people. You share what's on your heart and mind. You've been willing to invest in a "relationship" of sorts with some of us Flying Inmans.

It may not be what you prefer it to be. But it is for what it is...a relationship built around a common interest in all things Mormon...Mormon culture...Mormon truth claims...the Bible...the Gospel and competing Gospel accounts, etc.

I want to thank you -- and those Mormons I've interacted with -- for taking the time to invest in this relationship. Getting down to what is true under layers of religion is a struggle. But a necessary one.

So, to wrap this up. Back to compensation. My "compensation," Resty is people like you. I get the unique privilege of getting to know wondrous people like you, and Saundra, and Ripliancum, and Normandy, and Jeff. People that the Lord has uniquely created. People that the Lord has blessed mightily. People that He wants a full reconciliation as they are; and not simply an "ideal" that we always tend to strive for to "present" to God as "hopefully" (hopefully in the weakest sense of that word) will accept.

We're already accepted. In Christ. In HIS righteousness (1 Cor. 1:30); not ours.

On that end, please have a wonderful and joyous Christmas, Restornu. Know that you are loved. And appreciated. Just for who you are.

It's been my privilege to having met you. And loved you. Including loving you with the truth. And THE (Living) Truth.

Merry Christmas, Restornu! May the Christ child who was the Son of God from eternity past be the One who embraces you like Mary embraced that child during those manger days.

103 posted on 12/15/2011 6:10:21 AM PST by Colofornian (Mormon polygamy: It ain't just for time anymore...Lds tie the plural knot sequentially THESE days)
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To: restornu
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

ROTFL....when will the mormons begin seeing the "gentile" as men that worketh good....

How hilarious to see this quote in a post that wishes "Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile"

Are you enjoying your mormon superiority, Resty?

better than you

104 posted on 12/15/2011 6:11:26 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Holy, Holy, Holy..."God in Three Persons, Blessed Trinity")
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To: Grunthor

They worship at the alter of a “god” named Joseph Smith.


105 posted on 12/15/2011 6:17:49 AM PST by swampfox101 (I)
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To: cricket
Should I decide that his 'Muslim neutral' view is a result of his religion; and not typical Republican acquiescence to Political Correctness; then I will reconsider.

Perhaps you SHOULD reconsider:

Muslims and Latter-Day Saints
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2568726/posts
A Latter-day Saint Perspective on Mohammad
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2571152/posts

The Muslim Mormon Connection

http://mormonism.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_muslim_mormon_connection

Mormons, Muslims break the fast in Southern California

http://www.mormontimes.com/article/17754/Mormons-Muslims-break-the-fast-in-Southern-California?s_cid=newsline

"At the iftars, both Muslim and LDS leaders spoke at a brief service, after which the Muslims participated in evening prayers. Following the evening prayer, the groups met together for a meal, provided by the Muslims. There were members of other faiths at each of the dinners also, along with city officials.

In keeping with Muslim tradition, the call to prayer occurred at the time that the sun set that evening. Participants then broke their fasts with dates, bread or other simple items, before proceeding to evening prayer.

The LDS visitors were invited to observe the prayers. LDS women who attended wore head scarves, consistent with Muslim dress standards for women. After the evening prayer, the groups shared a large meal together. The dinners featured traditional Muslim foods such as lamb, couscous, rice and dates. About two dozen LDS members from each of the four stakes attended the events

"One of the noteworthy examples of the Latter-day Saint commitment to treasure up true principles and cultivate affirmative gratitude is the admiration that Church leaders have expressed over the years for the spiritual contributions of Muhammad."

"As early as 1855, at a time when Christian literature generally ridiculed Muhammad as the Antichrist and the archenemy of Western civilization, Elders George A. Smith (1817–75) and Parley P. Pratt (1807–57) of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles delivered lengthy sermons demonstrating an accurate and balanced understanding of Islamic history and speaking highly of Muhammad’s leadership. Elder Smith observed that Muhammad was “descended from Abraham and was no doubt raised up by God on purpose” to preach against idolatry. He sympathized with the plight of Muslims, who, like Latter-day Saints, found it difficult “to get an honest history” written about them. Speaking next, Elder Pratt went on to express his admiration for Muhammad’s teachings, asserting that “upon the whole, … [Muslims] have better morals and better institutions than many Christian nations.”


106 posted on 12/15/2011 6:43:59 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Holy, Holy, Holy..."God in Three Persons, Blessed Trinity")
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To: SENTINEL; Saundra Duffy; BlueMoose; reaganaut
"Boorish", really who uses a word like that ?

I'm sorry. I didn't realize. I'm so sorry.

Anyway, from this Baptist & fellow sinner.....

Merry Christmas, and the very best wishes of this blessed
season to my Mormon brothers & sisters in Christ.

107 posted on 12/15/2011 7:04:15 AM PST by laotzu
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To: greyfoxx39
Don't need to go there; really. And don't know if Mitt has either, for that matter. It is enough for me - for now - that Mitt is weak on our Islamist enemy 'problem' - as other Repubs - and non-Mormons; as well. Most notably; Liberal/Left Democrats.

Newt is not one of the 'blind'. A critical enough distinction, for me; for now. . .

108 posted on 12/15/2011 7:08:15 AM PST by cricket (/get the 'Occupier' out of our White House!/ and Newt 'in'. . .and it is NOT just the economy!)
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To: cricket
Don't need to go there; really.

Really? You made this comment: "Should I decide that his 'Muslim neutral' view is a result of his religion; and not typical Republican acquiescence to Political Correctness; then I will reconsider."...only to indicate you are ignoring the evidence of mormonisms attraction to islam that I posted.

Gonna make a cherry pie?

109 posted on 12/15/2011 7:15:29 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Holy, Holy, Holy..."God in Three Persons, Blessed Trinity")
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To: ejonesie22; reaganaut
Ya got to admit, it is rather amusing to be “instructed”, in that patronizing tone we see here from time to time, by folk who are shocked to see religion discussed in a forum titles “Religion”...


110 posted on 12/15/2011 7:19:23 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Elsie

111 posted on 12/15/2011 7:26:25 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: greyfoxx39; restornu
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

Not according to mormonism -

"I would rather undertake to convert five thousand Lamanites [native Americans], than to convert one of those poor miserable creatures [Jews] whose fathers killed the savior... Yes, I would rather undertake to convert the devil himself, if it were possible... I would say, leave them, and come home, the Lord does not require you to stay there, for they must suffer and be damned... [L]eave them to live and die in their sins and ignorance... [T]hey take pleasure in their wickedness..." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 2, p. 143, 1854)

I wonder if resty sustains her prophets?

112 posted on 12/15/2011 7:31:18 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Colofornian

Hi there, Colofornian

Thanks for the good Christmas wishes. It’s great that we have a holiday that focuses the attention on Christ who provided the greatest gift possible to the human race.

I’ve been watching some LDS produced videos that have been made dramatizing portions of the New Testament. They are very true to the Biblical text and focus on the birth of Jesus.

http://lds.org/bible-videos/?lang=eng

Best to you and yours this Christmas,

Normandy


113 posted on 12/15/2011 8:53:21 AM PST by Normandy
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To: Normandy

Thank you.


114 posted on 12/15/2011 9:00:06 AM PST by Colofornian (Mormon polygamy: It ain't just for time anymore...Lds tie the plural knot sequentially THESE days)
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To: cricket

It isn’t that we worry over any physical threat (although there is one), it is we worry about the SPIRITUAL THREAT of Mormonism.

Again, I can multitask.


115 posted on 12/15/2011 9:50:37 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: laotzu

If you really believe Mormons are ‘brothers and sisters in Christ’, you need to do your research. Your baptist faith doesn’t agree with you (and neither does any other Christian church).


116 posted on 12/15/2011 9:53:00 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut
Please, 'worry away'. . .about the 'spiritual threat'. Don't recall, Mormon's aiding and aligning with Hitler - as did the Muslims/Imams ET AL during WWII; or offering that 9/11 was 'our fault'; or threatening, pursuing change in our Constitution; or trying to shut down Christmas; but perhaps I missed this. Nor am I aware of Mormon 'jihadists' in our midst; or anywhere else in the world for that matter.

To be clear: not saying; not advisable; to keep an eye out here. ..but actively; painstakingly. . .worry?

Keep your 'multi-tasking' but don't flatter yourself; while doing it. Just wear yourself out; if that is your inclination.

117 posted on 12/15/2011 10:49:45 AM PST by cricket (/get the 'Occupier' out of our White House!/ and Newt 'in'. . .and it is NOT just the economy!)
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To: cricket

No I won’t wear myself out. And if you don’t see the threat, you are deluding yourself.

I will be a second Mohammed to this generation…whose motto, in treating for peace, was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword,’ so shall it be eventually with us, ‘Joseph Smith or the Sword.’ ” Joseph Smith

And Mormons don’t distance themselves from his teachings, they cannot. You don’t seem to get that Mormons lie out of habit and their PR machine is very effective at spreading those lies.


118 posted on 12/15/2011 11:02:36 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: laotzu
Exploding Head ALERT!!!

Merry Christmas, and the very best wishes of this blessed season to my Mormon brothers & sisters in Christ.

119 posted on 12/15/2011 6:18:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Godzilla
I wonder if resty sustains her prophets?

Not the SECOND one!!

He has DAMNED her!!


(Well; not BY PERSONALLY; but he has pointed it out...)


"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

120 posted on 12/15/2011 6:21:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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