Posted on 12/16/2011 7:08:45 AM PST by Alex Murphy
I was confronted with another ominous sign when I rang up the Protestant counterpart to the Catholic hotline and was told that all cooperation between the Protestant and Catholic centres for abuse notification had ceased years earlier. The representative I spoke to suspected the reason the partnership had broken down was that the Catholic side “had something to hide”. Another hotline employee lamented the fact that the Catholics showed no interest in a new protocol established by the Protestant abuse notification centre which the Protestants were more than willing to share....
....There was an angry reaction when Pope Benedict apologised to churchgoers in Ireland for decades of abuse that went unpunished. Why, the Germans and Dutch asked, should we be treated any differently from Irish victims? The Vatican never gave a satisfactory answer to that question. On the contrary. A cardinal close to the pope called the scandal “petty gossip” and even some bishops who acknowledged wide-scale abuse blamed it on the freemasons, on homosexuality and on the loosening of society's sexual morals following the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s (a particularly odd fallacy, since so many cases of abuse stem from the 1950s and earlier). On Good Friday, Pope Benedict's own preacher compared the incrimination of priests in the sex abuse scandal to past examples of persecution of Europe's Jews. Public relations are not exactly a strong point in Rome....
....The church in the Netherlands hardly made a better impression. The top Catholic figure here, Cardinal Simonis, left mouths agape when he denied that Dutch church leaders were aware of the wide-scale abuse by priests in their midst. He chose a historically loaded phrase the Dutch normally use to mock feigned German ignorance of the Nazi concentration camps, saying “Wir haben es nicht gewusst” [trans. "We have not known it"]. But Simonis' words sounded decidedly hollow when we reported, months later, that he had helped move a pedophile priest from one parish to another, allowing abuse of minors to continue....
....Incidents like these are among the many disconcerting facts that the Deetman Commission had to grapple with in its inquiry. Of the estimated 10,000 to 20,000 victims in institutional care between 1945 and the early 1980s, approximately half were repeatedly subjected to sexual abuse for longer than a year, the commission says....The commission singled out Roman Catholic boarding schools, orphanages, seminaries and other institutions, reporting that children there ran a greater risk of being abused. The inquiry blasted the institutions' failure to monitor the well-being of minors in their care....
There actually is psychotherapeutic treatment for these kinds of obsessions wherein the mind is totally absorbed with the sins of the Catholic Church.
However, once the treatment is completed, the individual is able to get on with their own lives and live productively.
Is this the same psycho-therapeutic treatment that the Bishop’s used when they sent pedophiles back into the church to work with children?
Let’s play, “Where in the world is Cardinal Law?”
He’s at the Vatican!
I win!
Institutional Dutch Catholic abuse 'affected thousands'
"It also conducted a broader survey of more than 34,000 people, to gain a more comprehensive picture of the scale and nature of abuse suffered by Dutch minors."
SNIP
"The report also estimates that one in 10 Dutch children have suffered some form of abuse, rising to one in five among those who had attended an institution - regardless of whether it was Catholic.
"Sexual abuse of minors is widespread in Dutch society," the commission reportedly said.
As for the Catholic Church in Holland, I've been waiting for this since 2002 when the US scandals first broke. Holland has been at the forefront of every sort of moral and theological aberration over the past 5 decades, whether it be drug use, homosexuality or promuiscuity. As far as religion goes, the Catholic Church in Holland has been a disaster. It has fallen over itself to embrace every modern fad. I've been amazed that the sex abuse issue has not reared its head earlier, given the overall cultural and religious decay in Holland. The only thing surprising about this news is that it took so long to come out.
Maybe they saved the worst for last.
The Dutch Bishops have long been a problem. This has been acknowledged by orthodox Catholics.
It is interesting that the places where Bishops are most tolerant of heresy in matters of doctrine and practice are some of the worst when it comes to sexual crimes and their coverups.
still in need of more treatment i am afraid
Remember too that the Dutch have long been tolerant of pedophilia.
Any sexual abuse is a grave sin. Keep in mind though that what constitutes sexual abuse can be far ranging especially when it involves minors. It can be anything from showing pornographic literature to someone to forcible rape.
All of this should be treated with the severity it deserves as any attempt to corrupt and/or harm the innocent is a sin against God and a rightly considered a crime. But it does help to know what is what so that an honest picture of the problem can emerge.
Did you also hit the abuse button?
This is not personal, my FRiend. I completely agree with your postings and just didn’t want you to miss one.
you and abusing the Forum? nooooooooooo /sarc
Is the article a made up story? If so, who made it up?
Worse yet, who finds it something to laugh at?
An interesting question too then is why the Catholic church has been so tolerant of the Dutch bishops.
Abuse is what we have been reading about, my FRiend. The vile pastors and priests who have become drunk on the destruction of these young lives. And, the filthy, pathetic organizations (like Rome and other Protestant headquarters) that have been too polite to call out this demonic evil. I’m with you on your implications...all these groups are bound for darkness.
All groups cover up the crimes etc of members of their group
It is human nature
Catholic Church is no different than coworkers covering up for drunks , cops covering up for corrupt cops etc etc etc
The account of a seven year old boy being sodomized is no joke. And the the effect on the child is no fictional story.
I agree.
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