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There is only ONE true Church
Bible | 33-90 AD | God Christ Jesus Apostle Paul

Posted on 01/14/2012 8:23:15 PM PST by bibletruth

In the present dispensation there is only ONE true Church, which is called the Body of Christ separate and distinct from the prophesied, earthly kingdom of Christ vested in redeemed National Israel as a called-out nation or church, assembly or congregation, above all other nations.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Theology
KEYWORDS: onebodyofchrist; onetruechurch
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To: anglian
So your thesis is that the United States in its rescue of Werner Von Braun and all the Nazi scientists who basically started and staffed the US space program are all magically absolved of all sins and it is the Catholic Church who takes the hit for it?

Get over yourself. If it wasn't for the Nazis, it'd be the Russians and Chinese in space, with the US cowering under the threat. The provincial dullards growing up under the American educational system have no clue as to the current socio-political situation, never mind economics or history.

And your posting is just about as disjointed and unclear as a DNC statement on employment. How about doing some research into the subject before spouting off like a Yellowstone blowhole?

341 posted on 01/16/2012 10:50:42 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Celtic Cross
wikipedia? Please, thats like quoting a coloring book.

You may have coined one there, my friend.

342 posted on 01/16/2012 10:53:01 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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Moreover, CIC Special Agent Robert Clayton Mudd disclosed in February, 1947 that 10 NDH cabinet members of Ante Pavelic's Ustasha regime were known by US intelligence to be residing in either the Vatican or in San Girolamo. Robert Mudd revealed that US intelligence had infiltrated an agent into the San Girolamo monastery and had confirmed that it was "honeycombed with cells of Ustashi operatives". Mudd described the operations of the San Girolamo Ratline in detail:

"It was further established that these Croats travel back and forth from the Vatican several times a week in a car with a chauffeur whose license plate bears the two initials CD, ‘Corpo Diplomatic’. It issues forth from the VATICAN and discharges its passengers inside the Monastery of San Geronimo [sic]. Subject to diplomatic immunity it is impossible to stop the car and discover who are its passengers…. DRAGANOVIC's sponsorship of these Croat Quislings definetly [sic] links him up with the plan of the VATICAN to shield these ex-Ustashi nationalists until such time as they are able to procure for them the proper documents to enable them to go to South America. The VATICAN, undoubtedly banking on the strong anti-Communist feelings of these men, is endeavoring to infiltrate them into South America in any way possible to counteract the spread of Red doctrine. It has been reliably reported, for example that Dr. VRANCIC has already gone to South America and that Ante PAVELIC and General KREN are scheduled for an early departure to South America through Spain. All these operations are said to have been negotiated by DRAGANOVIC because of his influence in the VATICAN."

343 posted on 01/16/2012 10:54:52 AM PST by anglian
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To: MarkBsnr
Go set the facts strait about the VATICAN for this guy then. LOL! All your posts are based is emotion.

Carl Savich is a Michigan-based historian. He received his B.A. in Political Science from the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. He has an M.A. in History and a J.D. in Law. He is a member of the Alpha Zeta Upsilon chapter of the international history honor society, Phi Alpha Theta. He has received an LCP BW American Jurisprudence Award and a Handy and Harmon Academic Scholarship.

344 posted on 01/16/2012 11:08:09 AM PST by anglian
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To: editor-surveyor
Nice mural painting job.

Two DIFFERENT nouns, not a gender issue.

I am sorry I thought you were asking an honest question to get a serious answer, I didn't realize that your sole purpose was to find a way to disagree.

Tell me how many hours of Graduate credit have you earned in Koine (New Testament Greek)?

345 posted on 01/16/2012 11:12:17 AM PST by verga (We get what we tolerate and increase that which we reward)
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To: anglian
Go set the facts strait about the VATICAN for this guy then. LOL! All your posts are based is emotion.

It is based upon facts. Your posts set the Vatican and Croatia and the Nazis in cahoots against the noble Serbs.

Carl Savich is a Michigan-based historian. He received his B.A. in Political Science from the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. He has an M.A. in History and a J.D. in Law. He is a member of the Alpha Zeta Upsilon chapter of the international history honor society, Phi Alpha Theta. He has received an LCP BW American Jurisprudence Award and a Handy and Harmon Academic Scholarship.

Unattributed quotations? http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/ says:

Carl Savich is a Michigan-based historian. He received his B.A. in Political Science from the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. He has an M.A. in History and a J.D. in Law. He is a member of the Alpha Zeta Upsilon chapter of the international history honor society, Phi Alpha Theta. He has received an LCP BW American Jurisprudence Award and a Handy and Harmon Academic Scholarship. His work has been cited on the US Holocaust Memorial Museum website in Washington, DC and the Holocaust and Genocide Studies website of the University of Minnesota. His articles have appeared on antiwar.com, balkanalysis.com, kosovo.net, maknews.com, realitymacedonia.com, SND.com, SUC.com, pogledi.com, and rastko.com. He has been a contributor to The Detroit News, The Detroit Free Press, Foreign Policy, Ancient Serbia (Stara Srbija), The Voice of Ravanica, Liberty (Sloboda), The American Srbobran, The Macomb Daily, The Sterling Heights Mirror, and The Oakland Post. His areas of interest and expertise are history, journalism, political science, and law.

I suppose that they quoted you and never bothered to attribute your sterling works to you. Why don't you sue them on this basis?

And then consider this: the Serbians are Orthodox and under the Orthodox bishops. The Vatican has no jurisdiction over them. Or is that conveniently forgotten?

346 posted on 01/16/2012 11:19:26 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
***Unattributed quotations? I suppose that they quoted you and never bothered to attribute your sterling works to you.***

Those 'sterling works' of the VATICAN were linked begining at 319. You are the one who asked for them then went to deflect from the un-Christian-like vatican behavior- saying the Amercan war of 1812 being illegal, Werner Von Braun,? and other crap remember? Then you tell me to get over myself and accuse me of plagiarism?

'The light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.' (John 1:5)

Have a Good Day.

347 posted on 01/16/2012 1:13:05 PM PST by anglian
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To: MarkBsnr

Why are you defending Nazi war criminals?


348 posted on 01/16/2012 1:24:10 PM PST by montyspython ((Romney-Perry-Obama ... No Way))
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To: Celtic Cross

>> “I happen to have a differing opinion from you on that.
Suprised?” <<

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No, catholics often have different opinions than Biblical Christians do.


349 posted on 01/16/2012 2:14:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: verga

You’re not being honest with yourself.

You tried to dodge my question with archaeopedantic hogwash, but the fact that he used two vastly different nouns, not just different in case nor gender, and the difference crosses all of the translations.


350 posted on 01/16/2012 2:19:36 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: anglian

You plucked a quotation from the website www.serbianna.com/ and did not attribute it. Any particular reason, or is it simply consistent with the rest of your prose?


351 posted on 01/16/2012 4:46:43 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: montyspython
Why are you defending Nazi war criminals?

You mean like Werner Von Braun and the Germans who formed the core of the US Space race? Or is your selection of Germans limited to those whom are not immediately of utility?

352 posted on 01/16/2012 4:48:18 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: jafojeffsurf
“God did NOT say to build a church” But I thought you would be one of the first to say the bible (scriptures) are the word of God.

AGAIN...God did NOT tell you or anyone to build a church...He said He would build a church...And those that believe in Him would be added to it, by Him...

It's a free country...You can make up anything you want...

353 posted on 01/16/2012 5:04:41 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: MarkBsnr; CynicalBear
I assume that you think that you have had the keys bestowed upon you as well.

All Christians have the 'keys' that were given to Peter...

354 posted on 01/16/2012 5:06:51 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool
I assume that you think that you have had the keys bestowed upon you as well.

All Christians have the 'keys' that were given to Peter...

Oh goody; we'll lock our doors to keep the riff raff out.

355 posted on 01/16/2012 5:12:12 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: editor-surveyor
You’re not being honest with yourself.

You tried to dodge my question with archaeopedantic hogwash, but the fact that he used two vastly different nouns, not just different in case nor gender, and the difference crosses all of the translations.

I dodged nothing and I was the only one in the conversation being totally honest, intellectually and ethically.

I strongly suggest you do some research from some evangelical scholars. You will find that quite a few of them actually understand Greek (Unlike you) and realize that by that time the two words were interchangeable.

How many credit hours do you have of Koine (New Testament Greek) do you have at the Graduate/ Masters level?

356 posted on 01/16/2012 5:22:41 PM PST by verga (We get what we tolerate and increase that which we reward)
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To: editor-surveyor
"No, catholics often have different opinions than Biblical Christians do."

With your truncated Bibles? Ha! Biblical Christians my royal Irish @**.

357 posted on 01/16/2012 5:27:03 PM PST by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: verga
I strongly suggest you do some research from some evangelical scholars. You will find that quite a few of them actually understand Greek (Unlike you) and realize that by that time the two words were interchangeable. How many credit hours do you have of Koine (New Testament Greek) do you have at the Graduate/ Masters level?

When you believe that King James emailed the AV1611 to Jesus and the Apostles for them to teach from, of what utility is Koine Greek?

358 posted on 01/16/2012 5:34:44 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Celtic Cross
"No, catholics often have different opinions than Biblical Christians do."

With your truncated Bibles? Ha! Biblical Christians my royal Irish @**.

How dare you insult the Protestant god in the mirror?

359 posted on 01/16/2012 5:36:01 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Celtic Cross

Yea, we ‘truncated’ all the gnostic trash out.


360 posted on 01/16/2012 5:41:48 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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