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I say this because the heart of Catholic doctrine about Mary centers on the question, Who is Jesus? You say that the Bible --which you call the Word-- is the final authority. Well, first of all, the Bible says that JESUS is the WORD. (John Chapter I). Not the book but the man called Jesus. But who is Jesus? Well, the testimony is that he is THE CHRIST.

But who/what is THE CHRIST? The Jewish Scriptures are not at all clear about that.. The New Testament is an effort to show by those Scriptures that the coming of Jesus and his deeds were foretold in Jewish Scripture. The Jews look at those same Scriptures and contend that they see no such thing. Now their canon of Scriptures omits many books, such as Wisdom, but you accept that same canon as your own. So if you and they both look at the same words and SEE different truths about Jesus, then they will be no more convinced by the testimony of the New Testament than you can be convinced otherwise. They come from a long tradition of interpretation.You come from another.

Yours, I submit, because you reject Catholic tradition, is even briefer, not even going back to the Reformation, for they had much more reverence for Mary than you have.

But that is not really what I want to talk about here. You should not dismiss out of hand what has happened over a period of two thousand years, especially the Arian controversy. For at bottom, it was a battle over the interpretation of the Bible. WHO IS JESUS? Arius claimed that the Bible says that Jesus is divine, but is not God. The Church rejected this interpretation of Scripture. Arius put his Scripture as proof. The Church disagreed. The Nicaean Creed is a statement of that disagreement and a positive statement saying who they thought Jesus is. Two interpretation of Scripture clashing. If you don’t study them carefully, you will think that they are quibbling. But they are profoundly different. IS the Nicaean formula one you agree with or one you reject? No point in talking about Mary unless we first agree who Christ is. To both of us, she is just a creature of God.

70 posted on 01/16/2012 9:43:14 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RobbyS
No point in talking about Mary unless we first agree who Christ is.

"WE"? LOL! And guess what - one doesn't agree who He is - HE TELLS US WHO HE IS ! And that's a demonstration of what I left behind in the RCC - arrogance and clueless on the things of God. Thank You God for delivering me out of that cult - catholicsm!

JESUS IS THE WORD! "The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned." 1 Cor 2:14

89 posted on 01/16/2012 10:48:08 PM PST by presently no screen name
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