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To: boatbums

I appreciate you pointing out that Catholics have a great deal of freedom in reading and understanding Holy Scripture. We allow that it can have many levels of meaning and can relate quite personally.

However, as you point out, there are limits and Catholics cannot teach interpretations against dogma and doctrine of the orthodox faith.

Of course, there are no limits outside the Church, or rather for the church of the individual. Any and all doctrine or dogma is allowed.

I don’t see the differences as little things. The ‘hidden truths’ of dispensationalism - rediscovered in the last century - for example. Preposterous to those not of this teaching.

And salvation by election? Radically different than salvation by grace through faith.

Then there’s Unitarians of several stripes, Modalists, Monarchists, and Universalists. Key differences in Christology and soteriology. And, as we see today, the fracture of mainline protestant churches on Christian morals.

Sola scriptura is not scriptural and just too stupid an idea to be of any value in creating or sustaining the Apostolic Church. Not Christ’s idea, not Paul’s idea, not the one holy universal and apostolic Church idea.

In history we see what has resulted. Luther’s fear that every milkmaid becomes a theologian is realized. And where once there was the Christian Church, there arose the Lutheran Church, then Zwingli, then Calvin, then Anglican, Methodist, Episcopal, Baptist, then NonAnything... each individual his/her own faith, creed, and confession.

From Church to many churches, to unchurched - and darn proud of it!

The “One Lord, one faith, one baptism” of the New Testament Church? There could hardly be anything further from it imaginable short of atheism.

And thank you also for your courteous discussion. Hope you are sleeping well and have a glorious morning.


1,250 posted on 02/02/2012 12:43:17 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Good morning.

No time to jump in here as I am only on to check in with the airline for a trip I’m taking today.

Will be gone for several days.

Just wanted to thank you for living up to your sobriquet so well these past few days.

Enjoyed reading through your posts.

Have a great week.


1,258 posted on 02/02/2012 8:02:50 AM PST by Jvette
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