You can’t be good,no matter how hard you try? What about all the honest people of this world? Hmm? The ones who are honest and pure-of-heart? The ones who help those in need?
One “bad” crosses out all the good? Really? People make mistakes. People make bad choices but that does not necessarily mean they are terrible.
I thought we wee made in G-d’s image. Why would He create humans who are low-down,dishonest,good-for-nothing cretins?
This is the Total Depravity theology,isn’t it?
Thank G-d I’m a Jew because if this is what Christianity teaches then I want no part of it.
The point is noone can be as good as God. Only God is sinless and compared to Him, we fall very, very short no matter how hard we try.
Jeremiah 17:9 “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
Isaiah 64:6-7 “All of us have become like one who is unclean,and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. No one calls on your name or strives to lay hold of you; for you have hidden your face from us and have given us over to our sins.”
1 Samuel 2:2 “There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.”
Isaiah 53:6 “All of us, like sheep, have strayed away. We have left God’s paths to follow our own. Yet the LORD laid on him the sins of us all.”
Original sin passed on by means of continual production of new individuals having Adam's flesh and blood = every one. By man came death. There is none good but The God. One is a Jew when circumcised in the heart. Are you circumcised in the heart? Open to both men and women. Kind of spiritual brit milah. Covenant. No goin' back. Isaiah 53. Need to help others while we're just passin' through, though. Part 2 of the Law -- feels good, too.
One “bad” crosses out all the good? Really? People make mistakes. People make bad choices but that does not necessarily mean they are terrible.
Yep, yep, and yep -- for Heaven, that is. Not terrible by your and my standards, but by The God's. Hates sin. Kind of like HIV/AIDS (which He also hates) only more so. People seem to have to sin like they have to breathe or laugh - it's part of the package. Need to agree with Him, "repent" -- turn around 180 degrees in the mind, trust Him. Like Job, Abraham, Itzaak, Ribkah, Yakov, Moshe, David, Schmuel, Yeremiah, BarTimaeus, Samaritan woman, etc.
I thought we wee made in G-d’s image. Why would He create humans who are low-down,dishonest,good-for-nothing cretins?
Adam was. Eve was. They chose to sin and because of that, Sin infected every cell of their bodies -- they caused it, passed it on, despite warnings from The God. They made the choice, The God did not. Now we're stuck with it. Non-negotiable. God did not create the descendants of Adam and Eve. All the descendants became children of Satan at conception. Fact. We are simply the product of multiplication/recombination/propagation of sin-infected cells. It's unavoidably inherited. Like death. The God is so holy and pure that he can not abide the least eentsy iota or keraia (yodh or chireq) of sin. He is also The Judge and The Executor. The sentence for sin is 3 kinds of death. Physical death. Spiritual death. Eternal death. The only way out is to be born anew as a spiritual person. Reward? physical life, spiritual life, Absolute Eternal Life with man's soul & spirit forever in affectionate union with The God, The Eternal Father.
This is the Total Depravity theology,isn’t it?
Yup. That's the status at birth. But no sin imputed until accountability under the Law (love The God, love thy neighbor) cuts in. Kids get a free pass, at first, for a while. Maybe about Bar/Bat Mitzvah too late.
Thank G-d I’m a Jew because if this is what Christianity teaches then I want no part of it.
Time was, when if you wanted to talk with God, you had to find someone who spoke Hebrew. No more. First People of the Way were all Jews, but they reached out -- regular fire sale of passes to goyim. He loved them too. But Jews got first dibs.
The God is not only immensely Holy and Just, He is Love and Tender Care personified hugely; and from before The Creation, had it all figured out. Made Himself Fully Man, Fully Divine, became your blood/burned sacrifice (and mine), completely satisfied The God's righteous demands on the humans regarding Sin and sins, once and for all time, and obtained The God's offer of friendship for each human acknowledging Him as King of all Kings. Satan wants to blind us to that. Better check it out. (Yom Kippur still going on in Heaven for a little while yet. The Eternal High Priest still praying for us, every moment.)
There's more, lots more. God loves you. So do I. Baruch haShem!