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You know 2ndDV, I've read this thread, and can't help but reflect on the reality that if this thread had been about that fraud Joel Osteen (whose clap trap is posted in the religion section daily by a poster who shall remain unnamed), that the religion moderator would most likely have deleted most if not all of the comments with strong admonishment about "leaving politics out of the religious threads, etc".

I'm not at all being critical of the article or your posting it, it's a great thread and needs to be seen as it exposes the hypocrisy of the Kenyan Kid and his First Wookie.

SPEAKING of that joker Osteen, here is what that charlatan and his wife had to say about 0bama on Larry King back in 2009:

"Joel Osteen: Well, I think he [0bama] is doing a great job. I'm impressed with his skill, his calmness, his just strength under pressure. These are tough times for him.

King: And you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: I've been really impressed. In fact, I've been impressed [with] the first lady. She stepped up, and she's done a remarkable job.

King: Recent polls show 12 percent of Americans still believe Obama is a Muslim, and 35 percent say they don't know his religion, but to most of them it don't matter. Should it matter?

Joel Osteen: Well, it matters to me. It matters to me that I know he loves the Lord, and I think it's important that he has convictions from his faith. So to me, it matters when I'm making my personal decisions.

King: Does it matter to you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: It does. It matters to me. ... I believe he is a Christian."

In my opinion, those two enablers of the twin frauds in the White House should be banned from FR based on that alone.

"...SPEAKING of that joker Osteen, here is what that charlatan and his wife had to say about 0bama on Larry King back in 2009: [snip]..In my opinion, those two enablers of the twin frauds in the White House should be banned from FR based on that alone."

" [Atheist] Lobdell says that he came to religion in 1989, when "I was 28 and my first son was less than a year old. I had managed to nearly ruin my marriage (the second one) and didn’t think I’d do much better as a father. I was profoundly lost." A friend suggested that he needed God in his life, and recommended that he attend one of those "mega-churches" that are devoid of either intelligence or barakah, but which rake in millions by fleecing their flocks.

"Now, if this were the only kind of religion that existed, I can assure you that I would be an atheist, probably a militant one. Again, the intellect can only assent to what it believes to be true, and for mine to assent to Paul and Jan Crouch, or Bennie Hinn, or Joel Osteen, or Tammie Faye Baker, I would have to be brain damaged (and I don't intend to give the brain-damaged a bad name). I don't even consider these people religious per se, any more than I consider most of what calls itself art to have any right to the name. Yes, some religiosity inevitably gets tossed into the mix, and I am quite sure that many decent people get involved in this kind of thing, but their decency -- or God's mercy -- protects them from becoming completely lost and deceived. I place these people in same category as Deepak Chopra and his ilk. Just two sides of the same coin mint. ..."

On Keeping Faith Alive: The Intellect Doesn't Slump