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To: YHAOS; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; BrandtMichaels; wagglebee; metmom; exDemMom

YHAOS: We are discussing, among other things, state control of science education at the elementary and secondary level

Spirited: The central concern of mind-control is control of conscience. This is due to the fact that all law-—including ‘He made them man and woman’— is grounded in transcendent morality originating with either the gods, as was the case with the ancients or with the supernatural living God.

Transcendent morality is of the spirit, either of the naturalistic gods as the pagans thought or of the supernatural Spirit of God. And man’s conscience is of his soul/spirit, meaning it is neither a movement of chemicals nor neurological predispositions as Gnostic antitheists teach.

Marxist Communists were both Gnostic Manicheans and positivists, which means that science and by extension naturalism (which excludes the supernatural) is the only source of knowledge. The Soviet Union thus represents an attempt by Gnostic positivist antitheists to efface the image and voice of God from man and his conscience.

But can man who is without doubt both Dr. Jekyl and evil Mister Hyde take hold of such enormous power (Tolkien’s One Ring) without falling into great evil? The witness of the Soviet Union where from 60,000,000-100,000,000 men, women, and children were liquidated literally screams “no!”

As you pointed out, the secular state controls science education, meaning that just as was the case in the Soviet Union, science “is the only source of knowledge” and the only people capable of “knowing” and/or correctly interpreting “knowledge” are Gnostic adepts occupying positions of power and influence throughout our culture, meaning from Hollywood to academia, the White House, Congress, Supreme Court, etc.

Knowledge is power. And as a wise man once noted, power corrupts but absolute power corrupts absolutely. The “One Ring” fell into the eagerly outstretched hands of Marxists with the result of incomprehensible evil. No less than that will happen here if and when absolute power falls into the outstretched hands of our own Gnostic “elitists.”


500 posted on 03/10/2012 3:28:13 AM PST by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish
It doesn’t matter if it is called Communism or Fascism. It doesn’t matter if it is called Materialistic Naturalism, or Naturalistic Materialism. It doesn’t matter if it is called Socialism or Liberalism (or Progressivism). It doesn’t matter if it is called Positivism or Scientism. It remains the end of the stick that stinks, and it’s mission is to bring an end to Western Civilization. Its success will hurl mankind back into another Dark Age of a thousand years, made all the more prolonged by a sinister and perverse Science (to borrow from Churchill). It must be opposed. No compromise.

Thanks Spirited, your remarks are always a treasure.

505 posted on 03/10/2012 11:54:27 AM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: spirited irish
But can man who is without doubt both Dr. Jekyl and evil Mister Hyde take hold of such enormous power (Tolkien’s One Ring) without falling into great evil? The witness of the Soviet Union where from 60,000,000-100,000,000 men, women, and children were liquidated literally screams “no!”

As you pointed out, the secular state controls science education, meaning that just as was the case in the Soviet Union, science “is the only source of knowledge” and the only people capable of “knowing” and/or correctly interpreting “knowledge” are Gnostic adepts occupying positions of power and influence throughout our culture, meaning from Hollywood to academia, the White House, Congress, Supreme Court, etc.

The Soviet Union had almost no use for science, and executed most of its scientists. The Soviets tried to substitute an ideology in the place of biology (Lysenkoism), which was an utter failure that put Russia so far behind in the biological sciences that their research is still hindered by it today. The USSR allowed some physicists to live, but only because they could design the war machinery and weapons needed for the USSR's expansionist goals.

Science and scientists are not to blame for the pogroms and mass starvations that swept the USSR. Put the blame where it belongs, with the socialist sociopaths who were in charge.

521 posted on 03/11/2012 7:07:09 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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