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Mormon church's racial history continues to haunt Romney
The Grio.com ^ | March 1, 2012 | Edward Wyckoff Williams

Posted on 03/06/2012 5:44:27 AM PST by Colofornian

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To: Elsie

There are LURKERS who have NEVER seen what I’ve posted before: it’s for them.


Now THAT’S funny !


41 posted on 03/08/2012 5:22:05 AM PST by magritte (Gladys Knight: Mormon Siren?)
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To: Elsie; All

Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.

Author: Brigham Young
Source: Journal Of Discourses
Volume: 10
Page: 110

You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind. The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin.

Author: Brigham Young
Source: Journal Of Discourses
Volume: 7
Page: 291

It was well understood by the early elders of the Church that the mark which was placed on Cain and which his posterity inherited was the black skin. The Book of Moses informs us that Cain and his descendants were black.

Author: Joseph Fielding Smith
Source: Way To Perfection
Page: 107

The Lord said, I will not kill Cain, but I will put a mark upon him, and that mark will be seen upon the face of every negro upon the face of the earth; and it is the decree of God that that mark shall remain upon the seed of Cain until the seed of Abel shall be redeemed, and Cain shall not receive the Priesthood, until the time of that redemption. Any man having one drop of the seed of Cain in him cannot receive the Priesthood; but the day will come when all that race will be redeemed and possess all the blessings which we now have.

Author: Joseph Fielding Smith
Source: Way To Perfection
Page: 106

Why is it in this Church we do not grant the priesthood to the Negroes? It is alleged that the Prophet Joseph said—and I have no reason to dispute it—that it is because of some act committed by them before they came into this life. It is alleged that they were neutral, standing neither for Christ nor the devil. But, I am convinced it is because of some things they did before they came into this life that they have been denied the privilege. The races of today are very largely reaping the consequence of a previous life.

Author: Melvin Joseph Ballard
Source: Sermons and Missionary Services
Page: 248

The negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow therefrom...

Author: Bruce R. McConkie
Source: Mormon Doctrine
Page: 527

Not only was Cain called upon to suffer, but because of his wickedness he became the father of an inferior race. A curse was placed upon him and that curse has been continued through his lineage and must do so while time endures. Millions of souls have come into this world cursed with a black skin and have been denied the privilege of Priesthood and the fulness of the blessings of the Gospel. These are the descendants of Cain. Moreover, they have been made to feel their inferiority and have been separated from the rest of mankind from the beginning.

Author: Joseph Fielding Smith
Source: Way To Perfection
Page: 101

As a result of his rebellion, Cain was cursed and told that “the earth” would not thereafter yield him its abundance as previously. In addition he became the first mortal to be cursed as a son of perdition. As a result of his mortal birth he is assured of a tangible body of flesh and bones in eternity, a fact which will enable him to rule over Satan. The Lord placed on Cain a mark of a dark skin, and he became the ancestor of the black race.

Author: Bruce R. McConkie
Source: Mormon Doctrine
Page: 102

Now, my brothers and sisters, I would like you to understand that long before we were born into this earth we were tested and tried in our pre-existence, and the fact that of the thousands of children born today, a certain proportion of them went to the Hottentots of South Africa; thousands went to the Chinese mothers; thousands went to Negro mothers; thousands to beautiful white Latter-day Saint mothers: You cannot tell me that the entire group was just designated, marked, to go where they did, that they were men and women of equal opportunities. There are no infant spirits born. They had a being ages before they came into this life.

Author: Melvin Joseph Ballard
Source: Sermons and Missionary Services
Page: 247

Why are so many of the inhabitants of the earth cursed with a sin of blackness? It comes in consequence of their fathers rejecting the power of the Holy Priesthood, and the law of God. They will go down to death. And when all the rest of the children have received their blessings in the Holy Priesthood, then that curse will be removed from the seed of Cain, and they will then come up and possess the priesthood, and receive all the blessings which we now are entitled to. The volition of the creature is free; this is a law of their existence, and the Lord cannot violate his own law; were he to do that, he would cease to be God.

Author: Brigham Young
Source: Journal Of Discourses
Volume: 11
Page: 272


42 posted on 03/08/2012 6:00:44 AM PST by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my country.")
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To: magritte
It’s infested with anti-Mormons.

And ANTI-Christians like yourself.

43 posted on 03/08/2012 9:37:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: magritte
It’s infested with anti-Mormons.

And you ARE one of them; right?

44 posted on 03/08/2012 9:37:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: magritte
Now THAT’S funny !

And, quite accurate.

I'll bet some of them out there have NEVER heard what a NOAHIDE is.

45 posted on 03/08/2012 9:38:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: AnTiw1
You and yer damned FACTS!! --MormonDude(Sorry women; but GOD has NOT seen fit to lift YOUR curse!)
46 posted on 03/08/2012 9:40:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Get some help.


47 posted on 03/08/2012 8:29:52 PM PST by Loud Mime (When conceit and anger are part of your religion, it's a political movement, not a religion.)
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To: Loud Mime; Tennessee Nana
ATTENTION MORMONs!!!



Enroll in the new Apologetics class firing up this summer at BYU!

You, too, will be able to CONFOUND any who would oppose you; just like the Scriptures say!

48 posted on 03/09/2012 4:57:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

The Mormans may be nutty. But you have yet to prove the case about your religious beliefs.

Elsie, it called an obsession...


49 posted on 03/10/2012 7:02:37 AM PST by Loud Mime (When conceit and anger are part of your religion, it's a political movement, not a religion.)
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To: Loud Mime
But you have yet to prove the case about your religious beliefs.

To whom?

50 posted on 03/10/2012 10:48:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Loud Mime
Elsie, it called an obsession...

MORMONism is 'called' a HERESY.

51 posted on 03/10/2012 10:49:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Loud Mime
Your three inputs to this thread have been quite informative...




To: Nabber
I find this bigotry fascinating and sad. This forum has a cult calling another
religion a cult.

The anti-Mormon posts are not about religion - - they're about EGO.

31 posted on Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:49:46 AM by Loud Mime (When conceit and anger are part of your religion, it's a political movement, not a religion.)

To: Elsie

Get some help.

47 posted on Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:29:52 PM by Loud Mime (When conceit and anger are part of your religion, it's a political movement, not a religion.)

To: Elsie

The Mormans may be nutty. But you have yet to prove the case about your religious beliefs.

Elsie, it called an obsession...

49 posted on Saturday, March 10, 2012 10:02:37 AM by Loud Mime (When conceit and anger are part of your religion, it's a political movement, not a religion.)

52 posted on 03/10/2012 10:54:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Loud Mime

I just havs an EGGO.


53 posted on 03/10/2012 9:28:56 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: Colofornian

It’s the Pink I.


54 posted on 03/10/2012 9:30:04 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: Elsie

all of my relatives refer to me as that crazy person that lives up there.


55 posted on 03/10/2012 9:32:17 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: Elsie

I had a case once.
Once I left the light on my case on.


56 posted on 03/10/2012 9:33:39 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose
Those without don't prove their case.
57 posted on 03/10/2012 9:34:57 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose

A man dies and goes to heaven. St. Peter meets him at the pearly gates.

St. Peter says, “Here’s how it works. You need 100 points to make it into heaven. You tell me all the good things you’ve done, and I give you a certain number of points for each item, depending on how good it was. When you reach 100 points, you get in.”

“Okay” the man says, “I attended church every Sunday”
“That’s good, says St. Peter, “ that’s worth two points”

“Two points?” he says. “Well, I gave 10% of all my earnings to the church”
“Well, let’s see,” answers Peter, “that’s worth another 2 points. Did you do anything else?”

“Two points? Golly. How about this: I started a soup kitchen in my city and worked in a shelter for homeless veterans.”
“Fantastic, that’s certainly worth a point, “ he says.

“hmmm...,” the man says, “I was married to the same woman for 50 years and never cheated on her, even in my heart.”
“That’s wonderful,” says St. Peter, “that’s worth three points!”

“THREE POINTS!!” the man cries, “At this rate the only way I get into heaven is by the grace of God!”

“Come on in!”


58 posted on 03/10/2012 9:44:02 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose

On Sunday morning, the preacher brings in 4 covered jars with one live worm in each. In one he poured whiskey, in one he poured liquid chocolate, in the third one he poured cigarette smoke and in the fourth one he threw in dirt. Result was nothing unusual. Worms in first three jars died. He then looked at the congregation and said, “I don’t have to tell much. I believe you have learnt a clear lesson”. Then he pointed at a little girl and asked,”Sweetheart, can you tell what have you learnt?”. Without any hesitation she said,”If you drink, smoke and eat chocolate you’ll never have worms”.


59 posted on 03/10/2012 9:46:46 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose

Three Pastors in the south were having lunch in a diner.

One said “Ya know, since summer started I’ve been having trouble with bats in my loft and attic at church.
I’ve tried everything—noise, spray, cats—nothing seems to scare them away.

Another said “Yea, me too. I’ve got hundreds living in my belfry and in the narthex attic.
I’ve even had the place fumigated, and they won’t go away.”

The third said, “I baptized all mine, and made them members of the church...
Haven’t seen one back since!!!”


60 posted on 03/10/2012 9:51:57 PM PST by BlueMoose
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