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Why Catholics cannot be Masons
Vivificat - From Contemplation to Action ^ | 10 March 2012 | TDJ

Posted on 03/10/2012 1:02:27 PM PST by Te骹ilo

Brethren, Peace be with you.

I want to add these to your reading list: a six-part interview of a former Freemason on why Catholics can’t become such published serially in the Colorado Catholic Herald:

Why Catholics Cannot Be Masons, Part 1

Why Catholics Cannot Be Masons, Pt. 2

Why Catholics Cannot Be Masons, Pt. 3

Why Catholics Cannot Be Masons, Pt. 4

Why Catholics Cannot Be Masons, Pt. 5

Why Catholics Cannot Be Masons, Pt. 6 (Conclusion)

- Purchase Why Catholics Cannot Be Masons from Amazon.com


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1 posted on 03/10/2012 1:02:31 PM PST by Te骹ilo
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To: YellowRoseofTx; Rashputin; StayoutdaBushesWay; OldNewYork; MotherRedDog; sayuncledave; ...

PING!


2 posted on 03/10/2012 1:03:51 PM PST by Te骹ilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Te贸filo

THEN; WHo built all them damned cathedrals out of stone?..


3 posted on 03/10/2012 1:10:24 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Te贸filo

But Catholics can be members of the Knights Of Columbus which is a Mason-like organization.


4 posted on 03/10/2012 1:10:36 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Te贸filo

Other that giving a hit to some obscure blog, why don’t you summarize for us?


5 posted on 03/10/2012 1:11:48 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Te贸filo

Can protestants be members of K of C? Just asking...


6 posted on 03/10/2012 1:12:16 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
The Roman Catholic theocracy can and does control the Knights of Columbus, but was never able to control the Freemasons or Knights Templar.

And that is the reason why Catholics are not supposed to be Masons.

7 posted on 03/10/2012 1:14:52 PM PST by oldtimer (uee)
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To: hosepipe

LOL

I was watching one of the anti mason conspiracy theory shows last night and I realized what a bunch of morons the “anti masonites” really are.

They claim our founders were all masons who wanted this new world order so they set up a government that did everything it could to prevent it.


8 posted on 03/10/2012 1:15:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: oldtimer

I’m a 48 year old man and can’t be a girl scout.

(((shrug)))


9 posted on 03/10/2012 1:16:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Mariner

1. My blog is not “obscure” just dimly lit. The penumbrae helps one to meditate.

2. I provided the links to the original publication, the Colorado Catholic Herald. You didn’t have to visit my blog. You could’ve gone straight to the original pub. I provided the reading list to my readers, as I file all such as, well, “reading lists” for their convenience.

3. Fair enough. Summary: Can Catholics become Masons? Not in good conscience. If one does, he cannot receive the Eucharist.

-Theo


10 posted on 03/10/2012 1:18:16 PM PST by Te骹ilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: hosepipe

Funny!


11 posted on 03/10/2012 1:18:49 PM PST by Te骹ilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Uh oh. Any Knights out there who may wish to take this one head on?


12 posted on 03/10/2012 1:19:28 PM PST by Te骹ilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: lonestar

To the best of my knowledge, no.


13 posted on 03/10/2012 1:19:56 PM PST by Te骹ilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Te贸filo

That’s a shame, they throw one heck of a barbecue fundraiser around here. Pretty decent Brunswick Stew in the fall, too.

They stay up all night tending to both, when they’re not chanting rituals and dancing nekkid around the fire, that is.

Oops, are they going to kill me now?

(The above is satirical humor, for the benefit of those so impaired.)


14 posted on 03/10/2012 1:22:41 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

A good friend of mine is Grand Pubbah for a local lodge. Great man and all, etc.

I suppose is like anything, how deep you go and what are one’s intentions. But that many men join these lodges to pursue esoteric gnosticism, well, that’s a fact.

And that’s not good.

-Theo


15 posted on 03/10/2012 1:27:47 PM PST by Te骹ilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: lonestar

Can protestants be members of K of C? Just asking...
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I think you still have to be a Catholic in good standing and be recommended by a Parish.

In 1950 or so our local Little League banquet was to be held in a Masonic Hall and I remember my grandfather being against it but don’t recall any debate/discussion at Mass or anything.
He finally ‘gave’ in and allowed me to go (I was getting an award of sorts) but as I remember, he didn’t like it.
He also got ‘mad’ at me in 1956 for going in the Navy while that ‘damned Republican’ (Ike) was president, saying there wasn’t any war going on so no need serving the R’s...
We were from the Southern tier of New York State and they were all quite Democrat and a lot of Catholics

Good man, my Grandfather, carried US Mail in Goshen NY for 40 some years and I do believe he never had a drivers license... Of course in those days the Mailman walked his beat... I could never imagine why he didn’t want to accept his ‘retirement’ from Ike but I ‘learned’ real quick when I figured what my reaction to a letter or meet with Carter and especially BO would bring from me.


16 posted on 03/10/2012 1:28:20 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98) Don't ask me to steal FOR you and chances are pretty good I won't steal FROM you.)
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To: cripplecreek

I wouldn’t bet on that ;-) Moreover, I’d bet a 48 year old man could DEFINITELY become a BOY scout ;-)

Crazy world...


17 posted on 03/10/2012 1:35:45 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Te贸filo

Gnosticism, mysteries and secrets, the knowledge and understanding of which increases as one rises in the hierarchy.

Are there any other prominent fraternal organizations, that might be so described?

Why, yes there are. A few are even religions.


18 posted on 03/10/2012 1:36:56 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Why, yes but the Federal Reserve is not a religion...

-Theo.


19 posted on 03/10/2012 1:39:55 PM PST by Te骹ilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Te贸filo
I have just connected to FR, saw your posting and read a few paragraphs of Mr Salza’s book. Let me tell you that I am a Freemason, have been for 41 years, I am also of the Catholic religion, converted 56 years ago, and must say after reading the first few paragraphs and reasoning of the reason you can't be Catholic and be a Freemason is “NONSENSE’.
First of all he states that he was solicited on the basis that the membership would have mercenary motives attached. He makes it sound as though the Mason that solicited him only used that reason for him to join. I doubt that happened in the way he would have us believe. I was specifically told by my mentor that if I thought joining Freemasonry was for monetary reasons or the like, do not bother attempting to join. Secondly, he could have easily refused entrance.
The next item that rings hollow is his claim that the restriction of wearing his wedding ring and crucifix into the lodge room would “offend the brothers in the lodge” is also nonsense. To prove that it is nonsense, please ask Mr Salza if he was allowed into the lodge hall after his initial degree and was he wearing his wedding ring and crucifix when he entered. It never was, is or hereafter an offensive thing to wear into a lodge hall. It is simply for the reason given to him when asked to remove these items. That nothing that could be offensive or defensive be brought into the lodge. It also means something that could be used as an offensive or defensive weapon. Members of all religions wear all kinds of religious items when attending lodge meetings and functions.
In closing, your attempt at reasons for a Catholic cannot be Masons and Mr Salza’s reasoning are purely nonsense and very troubling. In closing let me tell you that at the dinner of my final initiation, my Catholic Priest was asked to be a speaker. He graciously agreed, and assured me that I had no problem joining the FRATERNITY.
Sell crazy somewhere else, we're all filled up here.
20 posted on 03/10/2012 1:46:38 PM PST by bramps (Newt is the one)
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