To My "Bible Only" Christian Brothers and Sisters, From A Catholic Convert [a humble vanity]

[cloudmountain]

Why do it every day? Is not the blood of Christ sufficient to erase all sins past present and future? Can one lose grace and salvation? I was washed in the blood of Christ when I came to him with a broken heart, on bent knee. When Christ said on the cross “it is finished” He mean’t just that, his blood paid the price forever for those who shall receive it.

So, it doesn't matter how you live from now on, you are saved and will go to heaven. Is that right?
I was taught that we are sinners. We sin a lot. I try not to, but I do. How can one be saved when one continues to sin? One sins again and again and one must be forgiven again and again. It's not a "one-shot, does all" kind of grace.

Where does it say that ALL sins are washed away, past, present and future with just saying "I BELIEVE!" just once and that's it? Wow. That's easy. One sentence of belief and one is saved NO MATTER WHAT ONE DOES in the future.

So, you are saved and if you commit murder tomorrow, that's okay because you are still saved. If that's so, then why be good in the future when you are saved NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO because of what you said in that past about believing and being "washed" in Christ's blood? Makes NO sense to me, but then, I'm a Catholic.

Jesus gave the apostles the authority to forgive sins in His name: whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven; whose sins you shall retain they are retained. Thus we/I go to confession for the absolution Jesus promised us.
THEN we go to communion to eat of His Body. NO HUMAN I know is "good to go" after just ONE washing NO MATTER what s/he does in the future. Makes no sense to me. But then, I'm Catholic.

You Protestants get to interpret the Scripture ANY WAY YOU WANT so it's no surprise that there were/are over 40,000 different denominations of Protestantism. You can believe whatever YOU want as to what the Scripture means...interpretation du jour as YOU like and YOU see it, whatever YOU want it to mean. We Catholics have it interpreted for us by the Church through the last 2000 years of existence.

I'm going with the 2000-year-old Church, not the ones founded after Father Martin Luther started the ball rolling with the next 40,000+ Protestant denominations of Christianity.

I don't really believe that Jesus intended there to be 40,000+ different denominations of Christianity. That is just MY opinion.

[Vermont Lt]

I will make a point to look you up after we are both dead. We can compare notes.

[jmacusa]

I don’t seem to recall Christ saying anything about the Vatican. And I’ll tell you one more time, You are no judge of whether or not I’m a Catholic. No one on this Earth is.

[terycarl]

A Catholic will say over 1 million Hail Marys in their life time.

WOW, that would mean reciting a biblical passage from Luke over 1 million times....God will be impressed!!!

[what's up]

Your question was that if they were mistaken why didn't Jesus pursue them?

As I said...Jesus often chose not to pursue people who misunderstood what He had to say.

[whiteclockinthetrees]

It was kind and brave of you to share your conversion beliefs in the catholic church and its salvific mission. I’d like everyone here to know and remember that there IS unity in all believers of the trinity,father,son and holy ghost. The catholic church acknowledges all christian baptisms;ie. If someone was baptized in the trinity and if he converts to catholocism-that person doesn’t need to be re baptized. One of my favorite and most treasured books is ‘Why I Became a Catholic’ by israel zolli. He was chief rabbi of rome during world war 2. Another book I recommend which no one brought up is Aa-1025 by marie caree. It is about the memoirs of an anti apostle.it describes the lengths communists went thru in their efforts to undermine the catholic church,and how they infiltrated it. Many blessings to all.

[Natural Law]

"That this is untrue is plain to any who partake."

It is plainly the body and blood of Jesus Christ as anyone who believes can clearly understand. The simple reason is because the Bible tells me so. Moreover, I understand what the Church means by "substance".

[LukeL]

So what you are saying is a priest has the power to retain sin? How can a sinner forgive sin in the first place? If you believe in Christ you are saved for eternity.

[LukeL]

God said he does not change, then why has the Catholic Church changed its position many many times?

[Natural Law]

>I>"I think the Catholic Church has changed in recent years for the better."

That is true thanks largely to the converts and reverts and those who believed in the Church in spite of those who infiltrated and corrupted it.

[what's up]

If you believe in Christ you are saved for eternity.

So true. It's not dependent on my fickle choice which can change many times.

It's dependent on the faith which God Himself plants in the heart and He pre-destined this before the earth was founded as Eph 1 so clearly states.

[Heart-Rest]

“Issue 6 - The Catholic Church advocates and employs meaningless repetitious prayers.”

Well, it does. Repeating a stanza over and over, on the order of hours, with little if any other context, is exactly that. Nowhere did Christ or the followers do or advocate such behavior, but instead condemned it.

When Jesus taught the disciples how to pray, he said, "When you pray....", and proceeded to give them "The Lord's Prayer" (the "Our Father"). How many times would you have to repeat that prayer Jesus taught before Jesus would condemn it? And, what would you base your answer on?

Also, have you ever noticed how repetitive the Psalms (song-prayers) are? (See, for example, Psalms 103/104, and Psalms 118.) We also know that Jesus liked to quote the Psalms, even from the cross (Psalms 22). Would Jesus condemn the Psalms because of their repetitive nature, or call them "meaningless repetition"?

[ctdonath2]

Funny how the doctrine is so adamantly defended as literal, but when objective fact is observed then basic terms are suddenly redefined with amazing semantic creativity.

[Natural Law]

"If it involves chanting them over and over again like you are reciting your name and address, yes."

Thank God, we cleared that up. I thought you were accusing the Catholics of babbling like the pagans.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “The Catholic church existed for 1,500 years before the revolution took place” <<

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The “catholic church” was founded in the 4th century, by pharisees that wanted to reclaim their power and influence. That is why catholicism is a nearly exact image of pharisaical Judaism, including the departure from scripture with man made traditions, and the thuggery of the false priesthood.

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

ping/.

[Natural Law]

"I don’t seem to recall Christ saying anything about the Vatican."

The Vatican is only an address. Jesus referred to His Church frequently.

[terycarl]

If you believe in Christ you are saved for eternity.

Satan believes in Christ, Lucifer and the fallen angels believe in Christ....

[ctdonath2]

Christ gave us a template example, with no sense of “these words with little/no variation”. He also condemned wanton repetition.

There are 150 Psalms. We are not directed to stick to a half dozen of the more repetitive ones, and certainly not to repeat one on the order of hours.

[LukeL]

I like how you quote Matthew 6, but omit "do not use vain repititions as the heathen do" The Our Father Prayer is not a prayer that we have to say. Christ said when you pray, pray like this... Christ meant that in prayer we are to give glory to God, seek God's will, ask for our daily needs, and seek forgivness.

If you repeate a Psalm over and over thinking God will like you better because you said it 50 times instead of once, then yes that is a vain repitition.