How can the pots say to the potter, "Why have you made me this way?"
But that is irrelevant in terms of election, yes? God decides that before we are born.
I would suggest that our election is subservient to God's plan. It wasn't because Noah decided to follow God that mankind was saved. It was because it was God's plan to spare mankind that Noah was made righteous before God.
How is your answer different than: "Fate." ?
Fate is a predetermined course of events. This isn't what I'm saying at all. We are here. We are evil, stubborn and wicked. Our predetermined course without any intervention would be self destruction. We would be like Sodom.
God, OTOH, in His grace and mercy constantly intervenes and controls the affairs of man in spite of ourselves to accomplish His will. His will is to save some of us in spite of us.
Have you not read about how when Aaron and Marian confronted Moses about being so hotsy-totsy with God, God called them out and Marian became a leopard (at least for a week)? God told them that it is He that chooses who to talk to and who His leaders will be. We somehow still like to think that we can tell God who is in command. We don't determine our destiny nor are we driven to our destiny by fate. If it were not for God's constant intervention one could probably make that claim.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
You left off the good part:
Joh 3:19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.
Joh 3:20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.
We love the darkness and hate the light. We can only "love" the light if God puts that in us. Sadly, if we were there on the day of Christ's cruxcifixtion we would be among those disciples who would desert Him in darkest hour.
Can you choose to believe in Him? Are you only posting what you have no choice but to say? Could you change your mind and your theology?
I did change my mind and theology. I was wrong. I'm not wrong now.
You changed your mind. Hmm. That's called exercising free will choice.
I was wrong.
And when you realized it, evaluated what you think to be true, you decided to choose differently.
I'm not wrong now.
I feel fairly safe in saying: you didn't think you were wrong before either.
This discussion is an illustration of us evaluating facts, experiences, alternatives, values, logic and then exercising free will choice.
I feel like I'm trying to convince you that you are breathing while you're quite busy inhaling and exhaling.
:)