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To: stfassisi
With all due respect to A.W. Tozer, he's simply wrong. Where his analogy breaks down is people are not set adrift to some destination with no control over what they will do. There is no sovereignty in that. (While heading for NY will God protect you on the shuffleboard course?)

And this is NOT what Psalms 23 states. The Lord is my shepherd. He make me lie down... He leads me besides still waters... He restores me... He leads me into righteousness... Honestly, I wonder if people really think about what Psalms 23 actually means. Do people think they just board a cruise ship and off they go? This isn't the Love Boat.

Here is a better example not from Tozer but from God:

Under the "free will" paradigm this story would make no sense. Once Jonah decided to go to Tarshish that would be that. Jonah's activities most assuredly were determine by decree and not only did Jonah know it but so did the people who threw him overboard.

We know Jonah's "choice" and God's "choice". God has a way of convincing His people to do what He wants done. Our choice is how do we want to smell after we get there.

And this is a recurring theme of scripture...

But, as Nebuchadnezzar points out, one only understands this when their reason returns. ;O)

608 posted on 04/28/2012 11:41:51 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

Harley,

The whole story of Jonah builds up God giving the stubborn Jonah many free choices to follow His will and Jonah did not. Finally the stubborn Jonah went into Nineveh when he decided to freely follow God’s will.

Mary on the other hand freely followed the Will of God perfectly!


610 posted on 04/28/2012 5:05:36 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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