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To: gghd
Mary ... was redeemed from the moment of her conception

Since the scriptures are totally silent on the birth of Mary, anything you believe about her birth is speculation at best.

Jesus Christ honored his mother as required by the 10 commandments.

And by your own logic, He would have also honored Joseph for the same reason; it was required by the 10 Commandments. If Jesus provided Mary with her redemption to honor her via the 10 commandments ... they He would have had to do the same for Joseph; which is of course not a doctrine that Catholics hold, Josephs' immaculate conception.

Lemme guess your response ...

"Joseph wasnt really Jesus' father, so He didnt have to give him his redemption at his birth."

29 posted on 03/26/2012 10:40:57 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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30 posted on 03/26/2012 10:45:09 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: dartuser

You are right about Saint Joseph. Jesus Christ honored God as He was conceived by the Holy Spirit. The mystery of the Incarnation of Jesus Christ.

God did not leave us to wander the earth as a Motherless child. God gave us Holy Mother our Church to guide our ways on the path to Heaven. Out of the Heart of Jesus Christ was born His Church.

In the Bible, it is the Church that is given >authority from God. & We know the Bible came out of the Church. Jesus Christ promises that the gates of hell will never prevail against His Church.

Christianity is NOT NOT NOT about a book = the Bible. Christianity is about a person & that person is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the WORD of God made flesh. & The Church is His Body.

ALL of creation & ALL of the Bible can be summed up in one Word & that Word is = Jesus.


31 posted on 03/26/2012 11:00:27 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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I >may have made a mistake. That is why in the Catholic Church, Priests are given >authority to teach & They are well education in Christianity.

St Joseph was >redeemed by Jesus Christ & he is a very Holy person.

I do not know when St. Joseph was redeemed.

From reading the Bible, it appears as though St. John the Baptist was ‘saved’ while he was in the womb. At six months of age in the womb, St. John the Baptist >leaped for joy at the sound of The Virgin Mary’s voice.

St. Joseph may have been redeemed at >birth. But the Immaculate Conception is about the Virgin Mary, the Mother of Jesus Christ.

Pray for me! I need prayers to over come the sin of ‘sloth’ as I confess I am just to lazy at the moment to do any research about the ‘theology on when St. Joseph was redeemed.’

As the man that was given the responsibility of raising Jesus Christ to be a man, St. Joseph >must have been a ‘manly-man’ & also Holy before God.


33 posted on 03/26/2012 11:11:35 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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